Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chiefs 58

Is there any solid info on Kingsley playing left guard besides the fact he played in the game against Denver

Nope. It's all speculation.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Balto

I guess another question I have is for the people who almost with certainty claim that there is no way Simmons can heal and play at the same level prior to his injury…..Then why the hell would Veach even have him in for a look? Doesn’t this mean that it’s at least possible he can? I mean OT is still a huge need and can’t be a high draft pick that is a bust. Plus they have seen a current OT deal with the same injury in Niang……BUT they ae still bringing in Simmons for a look? Shouldn’t this tell us desk GMs that there is a lot more to Simmons and the talent he has AND the confidence in him being able to play at his previous level/skills? Otherwise why bother?

I want some possible trade scenarios from you regarding the LT position

[Wallymo]

Ok, I've dropped my Simmons infatuation. You guys are speaking too much truth. I just hoped so hard that he was a perfect fit but for the need for additional time to heal. With Moore in tow, the team could give it to him -- it looked like an ideal situation.

But if I fill one hand with wishes and the other with shit I'm confident which will fill first. So I guess I'm on the Conerly bandwagon now. Regardless, I think we have to keep taking swings until we find the guy to protect Patrick's blindside for the remainder of his career.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by TEX

Imo, Kingsley has zero upside at LT. That ship has sailed. In KC, He'll make it at Guard or nowhere.

Zero upside? Zero?

You mean we didn't draft a guy in the 2nd round because he had physical traits conducive to being a starting LT in the NFL? In reality he was some Mike Caliendo JAG at the tackle position?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Wallymo

Ok, I've dropped my Simmons infatuation. You guys are speaking too much truth. I just hoped so hard that he was a perfect fit but for the need for additional time to heal. With Moore in tow, the team could give it to him -- it looked like an ideal situation.

But if I fill one hand with wishes and the other with shit I'm confident which will fill first. So I guess I'm on the Conerly bandwagon now. Regardless, I think we have to keep taking swings until we find the guy to protect Patrick's blindside for the remainder of his career.

The NFL draft is nothing but wishes, man. Even when we took Mahomes. We had confidence. But we don't ever KNOW.

The way to guard against that is to throw multiple lines in the water. Which is what the Chiefs are doing. And they'll probably do it again in the draft. It just might not be in the 1st round, and I hope people understand that the development of the entire rest of your team can't be put on pause just because there's a hole at LT.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

The NFL draft is nothing but wishes, man. Even when we took Mahomes. We had confidence. But we don't ever KNOW.
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I remember the talking heads all saying Mahomes would take a lot of work to make him an NFL quality QB....that goes to show you just how hit and miss the so called experts really are.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by tredadda

I genuinely wonder who as a LT could fall to 31 that is significantly better or has more upside than Kingsley.

Nobody.

Nobody is more ready than Kingsley would be in year two.

And all this "he's a guard now" talk is a bunch of unsubstantiated nonsense. It makes perfect sense to get him NFL snaps in a meaningless game and take the pressure of being on an island out of the equation. That doesn't mean it's now the long-term plan.

He was always a project, and that means 'not ready day one'. It's something fans have a real problem grasping.

Now, maybe-hell, even LIKELY he's just never a starting level OT. Slightly more likely he can play RT. But that's called a late second round pick's general success rate more than anything specific to HIS abilities.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Nobody.

Nobody is more ready than Kingsley would be in year two.

And all this "he's a guard now" talk is a bunch of unsubstantiated nonsense. It makes perfect sense to get him NFL snaps in a meaningless game and take the pressure of being on an island out of the equation. That doesn't mean it's now the long-term plan.

He was always a project, and that means 'not ready day one'. It's something fans have a real problem grasping.

Now, maybe-hell, even LIKELY he's just never a starting level OT. Slightly more likely he can play RT. But that's called a late second round pick's general success rate more than anything specific to HIS abilities.

No it isn't . They benched him mid game twice, Veach more or less outright said it, they signed Jaylon Moore to play the position for at least two seasons, and they're doing homework on all the OTs that will be realistic options at the back of the first and beyond.

If you refuse to believe that something that looks, waddles, swims, and quacks like a duck is a duck, that's your prerogative, but quite literally every action the team has taken would lead you to believe they've shifted the long term goal for Suamataia.

[RealSNR]

I’ve said it before but if I’m converting anybody to guard, it’s Morris, not Kingsley.

[RunKC]

Kingsley was a way bigger project than people thought which is why he would have fallen to the 3rd rd if we didn’t pick him.

A guy with elite size/speed/strength doesn’t fall to the 3rd rd if he doesn’t have enormous flaws. And those massive flaws were evident very quickly.

The first rd tackles and Ersery are not as big of projects as Kingsley.

[dtrain]

Kingsley played well, at guard, against the Bronco's defense that ain't no joke and they were fighting for a playoff spot. I believe that sold the staff that he could be a guard and made it a little easier to trade Thuney. They will draft a tackle this again! I'm sure there are some kind of tests to see how strong the knee/patella tendon are. If they liked what they saw and he gets close they will go after Simmons. Who knows Simmons could be a smoke screen gamesmanship and there is someone they like better.

[dtrain]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I’ve said it before but if I’m converting anybody to guard, it’s Morris, not Kingsley.

He will be right tackle after next season. He played well at right tackle in the Bronco's game.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I agree it's just that all indications are that they've moved on from him as the LTOTF, and they made that decision so quickly and so final that I'm just going to assume there's a good reason why.

He didn’t belong out there so early and they killed his confidence. His body language after he gave up a pressure or sack was as bad as I’ve seen. I was a huge fan of the pick, but seeing him get beat and having no fight in him after the play ended, was unfortunate.

Made me wonder if Kingsley sat himself. Maybe had talks with coaches that he didn’t feel he could compete with those guys.

[Tribal Warfare]

A slight change has been made on Simmons Instagram account, and that's Tua is being followed now.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Zero upside? Zero?

You mean we didn't draft a guy in the 2nd round because he had physical traits conducive to being a starting LT in the NFL? In reality he was some Mike Caliendo JAG at the tackle position?

Yes. Zero as far as upside goes at LT... He needs to play in a phone booth. Hopefully he is decent there and has upside.