***** Official ‘25/‘26 KU Men's Basketball Repository Thread *****

[smithandrew051]

Let’s get things back to normal.

Disclaimer:

Any type of argumentative mentions of DH, KJA, or HD will result in a ban from the thread.

Perfectly fine to mention them if it’s relevant to the discussion.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

By all accounts, Bidunga's camp was fully aware that he was raw and needed a few years to develop. They didn't expect major minutes, especially on a roster with Dickinson. Bill actually did him a big favor by giving him minutes at the 4, which he's not at all suited for.

Why is Bill to blame?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Probably the better way to go with that one.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Flory happy -> Flory transfers
Flory happy -> Flory stays

Flory unhappy-> Flory transfers
Flory unhappy-> Flory stays

Except it's not that simple. Self also has to keep all of his handlers and his agent happy. And even if they're all content, the player might transfer anyway because somebody else lures him with a bigger bag, or he wants to be closer to home, etc.

Self's job is to try to win games. Not to bend over backwards to meet every demand of every recruit...who might turn around and bail anyway. Besides, he DID meet their expectations. If those expectations change retroactively, that's not Self's fault. Bidunga did nothing this season to earn significantly more minutes, especially down the stretch.

Half the players in the country are in the portal and plenty more will follow. Did all their coaches fail them?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Which part is funny? You think Bidunga is an ideal fit at the 4?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Except it's not that simple. Self also has to keep all of his handlers and his agent happy. And even if they're all content, the player might transfer anyway because somebody else lures him with a bigger bag, or he wants to be closer to home, etc.

Self's job is to try to win games. Not to bend over backwards to meet every demand of every recruit...who might turn around and bail anyway. Besides, he DID meet their expectations. If those expectations change retroactively, that's not Self's fault. Bidunga did nothing this season to earn significantly more minutes, especially down the stretch.

Half the players in the country are in the portal and plenty more will follow. Did all their coaches fail them?

I proactively covered all of the unnuanced stuff you just said in the part of my quote you deleted... and the last thing you asked is covered in the part you didn't delete.

Seems like you're trying to KCC up the thread with bullshit as opposed to having an honest discussion about it, if you can't even be bothered to read what people are typing.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I wonder how long HCBS will coach with paying players on 1 year contracts?

He's not a fan of it and neither am I!

Before you know it, almost every college player is going to test the portal each and every year they are in college!

This shit is already out of hand and it's looking like there needs to be a cap limit!

He might have gave Storr 2 years and then paid him to go away...

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I proactively covered all of the unnuanced stuff you just said in the part of my quote you deleted... and the last thing you asked is covered in the part you didn't delete.

Seems like you're trying to KCC up the thread with bullshit as opposed to having an honest discussion about it, if you can't even be bothered to read what people are typing.

I apologize for not accepting your assumptions as fact and proceeding to shit all over a HOF coach.

You're assuming that Bidunga was angry/unhappy, and that's why he's in the portal. What makes you think this isn't just about money? You realize that every agent in the nation is encouraging his players to test the waters, right? Hence why there are 7 billion players in the portal and guys are asking for 5x their worth.

And in fact, I've heard that his relationship with the staff is okay, and this IS mostly about money. Which makes a lot more sense than the theory that he's pouting because Self gave him the role he expected, and has decided to pass up the opportunity to start and play 30+ min next year with Darryn Peterson out of spite.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

By all accounts, Bidunga's camp was fully aware that he was raw and needed a few years to develop. They didn't expect major minutes, especially on a roster with Dickinson. Bill actually did him a big favor by giving him minutes at the 4, which he's not at all suited for.

Why is Bill to blame?

Oh so you didn’t watch the games this season. Good to know

[KC_Connection]

From Vernon's newsletter last week:

I'm Hearing Flory Bidunga plans to enter the transfer portal, ending a week of speculation about the former 5-star freshman. ESPN has since confirmed the KUHearings update.

I’ve Heard KU wanted Bidunga to return, and it appears to mark a significant blow to Kansas' frontcourt plans for next season. I don’t think KU expected this when the season ended.

While Bidunga showed flashes of his elite potential during his freshman year, his playing time fluctuated. I’d Heard multiple times this year that his camp wasn’t thrilled with how he was being handled.

Most notably, Bidguna had a four-game stretch playing 25+ minutes with KJ Adams sidelined with an injury. KU went 3-1 in this period, with the lone loss coming in a double overtime collapse to Houston.

When Adams returned, Bidunga's role immediately diminished - managing just one field goal attempt against Baylor and only two against Iowa State in the games that followed.

If Flory isn't playing with KU next season, it's pretty obvious who/what the reason is.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I apologize for not accepting your assumptions as fact and proceeding to shit all over a HOF coach.

You're assuming that Bidunga was angry/unhappy, and that's why he's in the portal. What makes you think this isn't just about money? You realize that every agent in the nation is encouraging his players to test the waters, right? Hence why there are 7 billion players in the portal and guys are asking for 5x their worth.

And in fact, I've heard that his relationship with the staff is okay, and this IS mostly about money. Which makes a lot more sense than the theory that he's pouting because Self gave him the role he expected, and has decided to pass up the opportunity to start and play 30+ min next year with Darryn Peterson out of spite.

You might be too stupid for this thread, and we literally filtered the most often used word to describe such a person to the username of another KU fan, so we don't exactly set the bar very high around here.

[KC_Connection]

KU played like one of the best teams in the country in the short time that Flory was starting and playing big minutes.

It was clearly an egregious mistake to bench him for who they did and I imagine the whole team grasped that by the end. It would seem Flory's camp certainly did.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Which part is funny? You think Bidunga is an ideal fit at the 4?

I think ....... It's a waste of time trying to explain where you are wrong.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Oh so you didn’t watch the games this season. Good to know

Pretty sure I said exactly that in the last thread. No way to understand if you're not watching the games.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

If Flory isn't playing with KU next season, it's pretty obvious who/what the reason is.

I thought it has been pretty clear who is to blame already.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

KU played like one of the best teams in the country in the short time that Flory was starting and playing big minutes.

It was clearly an egregious mistake to bench him for who they did and I imagine the whole team grasped that by the end. It would seem Flory's camp certainly did.

At least I can agree with KCC again.