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Old 03-24-2025, 08:32 AM  
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***Official 2025 STL Cardinals Thread ***
Another year of seeing Mo run this team into the ground. And Dewitt claim to be broke.

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Old 04-02-2025, 01:30 PM   #46
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threating? What did I miss?
Didn't he say last year they'd cut payroll if fans stopped coming?
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Didn't he say last year they'd cut payroll if fans stopped coming?
Threating your customers is always a good choice.
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Didn't he say last year they'd cut payroll if fans stopped coming?
It was the single most tone-deaf and completely inexplicable interview I've ever heard. I believe it was with Slaten and it was just defiant to the point of obtuse.

If I hadn't listened to the whole thing I'd swear the reporting was embellished. It wasn't.

BD3 is a MASSIVE prick.

We are cattle to him. This team is nothing but an asset sheet. The team isn't the product -- the fans are. I always knew he was something of an entitled rich kid but his public statements last year were just remarkable.
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BD3 is a MASSIVE prick.

We are cattle to him. This team is nothing but an asset sheet. The team isn't the product -- the fans are. I always knew he was something of an entitled rich kid but his public statements last year were just remarkable.
children of billionaires are convinced they are as smart as their billionaire Dad. But, haven’t done shit on their own. The arrogance drips off them.
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Wish he would stick to drawing his shitty art or at least trying to find a buyer who cares for the team.

Why does every silver spoon jackass want to be an artist anyway?
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Wish he would stick to drawing his shitty art or at least trying to find a buyer who cares for the team.

Why does every silver spoon jackass want to be an artist anyway?
I always just presume money laundering...
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I just can't help but think of October of 2021.

How much different would things be if that fall, when John Mozeliak told ownership he was going to fire Mike Shildt due to 'philosophical differences' after Shildt took a team that got something like 85 starts from guys who NEVER THREW ANOTHER MAJOR LEAGUE PITCH to the playoffs, ownership had stood up and said "Y'know what John? I think maybe your services are no longer needed..."

And set about, right that very minute, to bringing people into the organization that could undo the decade or so of stasis that Mozeliak had created.

Where would we be now? Could Carlson have continued to develop as he was doing under Shildt? Would Walker be further along? Would guys like Edman, O'Neill and Bader still be here? Would they have been traded for legitimate value instead of dumped?

One thing I do no is that the fans would not be this goddamn furious. Firing Mike Shildt was the spark that ignited this entire conflagration.

And there were people on this board that supported it. Because he wasn't able to carry that pathetic roster full of cast-offs past a 106 win Dodgers team.

Some of us knew the Cardinals were in dire straights before that. ALL of us should've known they were after it.

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But think of all the nostalgia they can sell? Can't wait til I see on Storage Wars someone buying a unit with 20000 Nolan Gorman bobble heads in it.
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https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...=337124&page=6

Start at the bottom of page 6 and read through page 8 (80 post view) and you'll get a goddamn treatise on how badly the Cardinals botched this and how unbelievably wrong so many people were about Shildt.

And how POSITIVE they were they were right. That's the best part.

Some of the same folks looking at this organization right now saying "How did it ever come to this?" were standing right alongside Mozeliak's decisionmaking back then and ignoring every single pie hitting them in the face along the way.

We fully and finally killed this organization in October of 2021. The damage hasn't still fully born out and will take years of pristine decision-making to undo.

That moment wasted a decade of your Cardinal fandom, fellas.

And many of you defended it.
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I don't know how many people defended it. To be fair this thread has been one of the most negative and anti-mo cardinals places on the internet. PGM is the only poster I remember not liking Shildt.
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wow, way to go to another thread from 2021 to cherry pick that post. What is your damn point?
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I don't know how many people defended it. To be fair this thread has been one of the most negative and anti-mo cardinals places on the internet. PGM is the only poster I remember not liking Shildt.
Yes, the unexplained hatred for Pham, Nootbaar, etc. was laughable too.
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I don't know how many people defended it. To be fair this thread has been one of the most negative and anti-mo cardinals places on the internet. PGM is the only poster I remember not liking Shildt.
Read the thread.

Most folks defended firing Shildt. Some also said that Mozeliak needed to go, but the fact that folks actually looked at Mike Shildt as part of the problem that year is the reason a clown like Mozeliak got to skate by on pure inertia for as long as he did.

Fingers were pointed in the wrong direction -- all of them should've been pointed squarely at him all along. He's been the problem for a decade. And the people that continued to employ him.
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