Chiefs interest in a DK Metcalf Trade [traded to the Steelers]

[Couch-Potato]

Say what!? That’d be exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1wOjrv0hk

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/news/r...f-01jmjqc842k3

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/news/s...-in-dk-metcalf

Veach says he regrets passing on him in the draft.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

And this helps your arguement.....how?

They built up the defense, went to 3 straight SB's.

Now we wanna blow it out to get back to talent stacked offense because.....why?

The offense had a HOF WR and HOF TE to start. Those guys are both gone. Kelce may be here but he’s turning 36 next season.

The offense needs to be rebuilt and the draft ain’t the place to do it this year except at RB. Pay for a competent LT. Pay for another weapon.

If you don’t want to trade for Metcalf I get it. Then go sign Darius Slayton for example.

The draft is very rich on defense. Reload the defense there.

[O.city]

Draft the best guys, offense/defense I don't really have an issue there.

But trading for an older 3rd contract WR and giving him 30 million when he's not really an ideal fit here for what they wanna do....I'd not do that.

If you wanna go trade picks and pay a guy, go blow out Jerry and trade for Micah.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The offense had a HOF WR and HOF TE to start. Those guys are both gone. Kelce may be here but he’s turning 36 next season.

The offense needs to be rebuilt and the draft ain’t the place to do it this year except at RB. Pay for a competent LT. Pay for another weapon.

If you don’t want to trade for Metcalf I get it. Then go sign Darius Slayton for example.

The draft is very rich on defense. Reload the defense there.

This is why I wouldn't be opposed to it.

This years' FA class isn't great. Especially at WR. Bunch of older guys and/or brokedicks.

The draft class is HEAVILY slanted to the defensive side of the ball.

A DK trade, addressing the LT position and drafting a RB means you don't have to touch the offensive side of the ball for 3-4 years - with the exception of replacing Jawaan - and that may be in house as Wanya looks WAY better on the right side.

I get why people may be against it, I'm just surprised how many people don't see the benefit at all.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Draft the best guys, offense/defense I don't really have an issue there.

But trading for an older 3rd contract WR and giving him 30 million when he's not really an ideal fit here for what they wanna do....I'd not do that.

If you wanna go trade picks and pay a guy, go blow out Jerry and trade for Micah.

He's 27?

And how is he not a fit for what they do? I don't know why everyone believes he's nothing but a jump ball guy.

Watch that video I posted earlier. Ironically, most of it Geno is *running for his life* and DK just finds a way to get open.

What have we been complaining about since Reek left?

No one can get open.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

He's 27?

And how is he not a fit for what they do? I don't know why everyone believes he's nothing but a jump ball guy.

Watch that video I posted earlier. Ironically, most of it Geno is *running for his life* and DK just finds a way to get open.

What have we been complaining about since Reek left?

No one can get open.

They traded away a guy they didn't want to pay that kind of money to at WR who fit perfectly.

DK isn't going to be the route runner they want, he's just so damn big.

I'm not against that type of guy if they'd use them correctly, but they just never have so Imma assume they won't.

Plus you've got Rice and Worthy. They need to add a 3rd (maybe a 4th wr) but those aren't gonna be super expensive.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

This is why I wouldn't be opposed to it.

This years' FA class isn't great. Especially at WR. Bunch of older guys and/or brokedicks.

The draft class is HEAVILY slanted to the defensive side of the ball.

A DK trade, addressing the LT position and drafting a RB means you don't have to touch the offensive side of the ball for 3-4 years - with the exception of replacing Jawaan - and that may be in house as Wanya looks WAY better on the right side.

I get why people may be against it, I'm just surprised how many people don't see the benefit at all.

Because adding weapons doesn't mean you create a log jam at the top of the WR depth chart, and that's exactly what you are doing by adding a DK Metcalf.

You think WRs are divas, force a bunch of them that are starters to share reps and become backups.

Add a quality slot WR to Rice and Worthy and a nice developmental guy to be your #4 and that's truthfully all you need. #5 and #6 are mostly special teamers and you know you already got one of those in Remigio. I'd argue look at the #5 as a gadget guy that can contribute on special teams.

I'd buy that slot guy, whether that's Hollywood or Moore or whatever.

I'd see how the draft falls for me regarding #4. If I can snag a guy in the 3rd or 4th round I like I'd do that, else I'd revisit FA post-draft with a pickup like we did with Watson.

I'd probably look hard at a guy like A.J. Henning from Northwestern on day 3 to be that #5 gadget/KR/PR guy.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

They traded away a guy they didn't want to pay that kind of money to at WR who fit perfectly.

DK isn't going to be the route runner they want, he's just so damn big.

I'm not against that type of guy if they'd use them correctly, but they just never have so Imma assume they won't.

Plus you've got Rice and Worthy. They need to add a 3rd (maybe a 4th wr) but those aren't gonna be super expensive.

They aren't going to be any good, either.

I think you know that I'm just arguing for arguing's sake, but I don't think that makes me wrong.

I'm also tired of having a ****ing McLaren in the garage but only being able to drive it in the ****ing subdivision.

I'm grateful AF for all these SB's, but let's be honest - we've been "getting by" on offense. I have a hard time shitting on a move that would make the offense dominant again, especially with a soon-to-be-gone Kelce.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

They aren't going to be any good, either.

I think you know that I'm just arguing for arguing's sake, but I don't think that makes me wrong.

I'm also tired of having a ****ing McLaren in the garage but only being able to drive it in the ****ing subdivision.

I'm grateful AF for all these SB's, but let's be honest - we've been "getting by" on offense. I have a hard time shitting on a move that would make the offense dominant again, especially with a soon-to-be-gone Kelce.

I'll be honest I think a lot of people preferred the early Mahomes years more where it was 35+ all the time.

Yes I'm glad we win, I'd also like fun sometimes.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Because adding weapons doesn't mean you create a log jam at the top of the WR depth chart, and that's exactly what you are doing by adding a DK Metcalf.

You think WRs are divas, force a bunch of them that are starters to share reps and become backups.

Add a quality slot WR to Rice and Worthy and a nice developmental guy to be your #4 and that's truthfully all you need. #5 and #6 are mostly special teamers and you know you already got one of those in Remigio. I'd argue look at the #5 as a gadget guy that can contribute on special teams.

I'd buy that slot guy, whether that's Hollywood or Moore or whatever.

I'd see how the draft falls for me regarding #4. If I can snag a guy in the 3rd or 4th round I like I'd do that, else I'd revisit FA post-draft with a pickup like we did with Watson.

I'd probably look hard at a guy like A.J. Henning from Northwestern on day 3 to be that #5 gadget/KR/PR guy.

Yeah if people don’t want to use a pick I get it. But they need to be aggressive.

The point is they can’t risk having a guy like Justin Watson starting anymore. DK is the big playmaker but I wouldn’t be opposed to Hollywood Brown (they want him back so I’m listing him) as well as someone like Christian Kirk. He’ll pay $3 million for Ty Johnson and draft Jaydon Blue or Bayshul Tuten to pair with him and Pacheco.

This team had 4 LT’s last year, Justin Watson as WR1 for a month, washed Hopkins for half a season, old washed Kareem and even had Carson Steele starting a game.

They have to upgrade the talent and add playmakers at receiver and RB. It’s been mostly bottom of the barrel the last 2 years.

[OnTheWarpath15]

*whispers*

Worthy IS your slot.

As far as what, exactly, clicked toward the back end of the season, Brown thinks that his own return to the lineup has allowed Worthy to move around the formation more often, which has in turn let the Chiefs take advantage of his speed on a more regular basis because he doesn't have to be the only guy stretching the field deep.

And that's definitely been the case. Prior to Brown 's return in Week 16, Worthy lined up in the slot on 31.8% of his snaps, via TruMedia, out wide for 66.6% and in the backfield 1.6% of the time. Since then, he's been in the slot on 44.4% of snaps and outside for 53.7%, while taking 1.9% of his snaps in the backfield. He's been targeted on 30.7% of his routes when working out of the slot across those four games, and he's got 16 catches for 156 yards and two scores on those plays. That's compared with only a 15.8% target rate and 13 catches for 129 yards and two touchdowns from the slot through the first 15 weeks of the season.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'll be honest I think a lot of people preferred the early Mahomes years more where it was 35+ all the time.

Yes I'm glad we win, I'd also like fun sometimes.

I'm tired of our half a billion dollar QB depending on guys like Justin Watson and JJSS.

And he's losing his security blanket.

[O.city]

He needs to be outside more to reach his full potential, imo.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'm tired of our half a billion dollar QB depending on guys like Justin Watson and JJSS.

And he's losing his security blanket.

And it's not like we have to spend spend spend to do that, how about you just use some high picks on RB and WR?

Rice and Worthy great..add another WR and a dynamic RB. We're gonna end up being like Ron Wolf when he had Favre "I wonder what it would have been had I given him more weapons"

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'm tired of our half a billion dollar QB depending on guys like Justin Watson and JJSS.

And he's losing his security blanket.

I don't have an issue with doing what you guys are saying.

But when the defense can't get any stops because the offense was forced to punt 1 time, this place will be fun.

They'll keep trying to add weapons, but last year especially was just really unlucky.

If Rice doesn't go down, I don't think we're having any discussions.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And it's not like we have to spend spend spend to do that, how about you just use some high picks on RB and WR?

Rice and Worthy great..add another WR and a dynamic RB. We're gonna end up being like Ron Wolf when he had Favre "I wonder what it would have been had I given him more weapons"

As opposed to Peyton Mannings Colts "we just couldn't get stops".