The Oscars

[GloryDayz]

Sooooooooooooooooooo... Has anybody else had the TV taken-over to watch the Oscars?

[Pennywise]

2 reasons not to watch the Oscars pic.twitter.com/ySIc9k3LMr

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[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by Frazod

I recently noticed that Dune Part 2 is on Netflix now. If you've never read the book or if the book isn't terribly important to you, you'll likely enjoy it. But if you love the book and were finally hoping for a faithful, competent adaptation, you'll be really pissed off. I personally hated it so much that I haven't been to movie theater since I saw it.

Not familiar with anything else that was nominated. Haven't watched the Oscars in years. No plans to ever watch it again.

I read the book back in high school, eons ago and have forgotten most of the details, but remember the basic story line.
I saw the original Dune movie with Kyle MacLachlan and it was absolutely horrific.
When I saw the new Dune, I was like well this is better than the first attempt!

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I don’t. It’s just a weird thing to give praise to.

It wasn't praise, it was support.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

It wasn't praise, it was support.

Her words “ I just want to recognize and honor the sex worker community”

Maybe it was a poor choice of words? But whatever….

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Maybe it’s a sign we’re moving in the right direction. Think we’re finally all Marveled out and last night they didn’t give the very best awards to wicked and A complete unknown. And instead rewarded complete originality. I love Dylan but biopics too often get over rewarded even though they’re not nearly as original. The big winners were the brutalist and anora which are a little boring Oscar’s wise, but at least the writing and performances were highly original.

Unfortunately I think dune 2 was squeezed out for that reason. I saw that in the theater and it was an absolute spectacle

The Covenant is supposed to be really good.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

I read the book back in high school, eons ago and have forgotten most of the details, but remember the basic story line.
I saw the original Dune movie with Kyle MacLachlan and it was absolutely horrific.
When I saw the new Dune, I was like well this is better than the first attempt!

The ironic thing is that the '84 movie doesn't butcher the book anywhere near as bad as the new one does. It was poorly made, poorly directed, had terrible special effects, had miscast/bad actors in crucial roles, and threw in some stupid shit, but overall it stuck to the story fairly well.

I actually think more highly of the '84 movie after seeing the latest one. THAT'S HOW MUCH I HATED IT.

There's a thread in the Media forum where I discuss at length why Dune Part 2 sucks every dick in the universe. I really don't want to relive that here anymore than I already have.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Conan is just a different level type of entertainer. They haven’t had a host since Billy crystal that can command an audience in the same way. I usually do not watch but watched it purely for him and fast forwarded through most of the other bits

Unfortunately the movies aren’t the same caliber. This modern era, we don’t have the same caliber of movie stars and all the different formats have made for some great movies… but nothing that stands out as generational. Anora for example was a great movie, but not one we’re going to revisit even a few years from now.

I personally don't think it's an erosion of quality. I think all of the different ways to consume media mean we have so many options, outside of big marvel style tent poles, that we don't have the same shared cultural experience that we used to. If Anora came out in 1999 and got the wide release of American Beauty, it might be more of what you would call generational. Also, I think that awards are more likely to reward movies that are challenging than they used to be. Those movies are also likely to be more divisive. Finally, technology advances in home viewing have killed the big awards movie. Basically, the market for big time blockbuster movies that have heart, but don't piss too many people off has dried up. Those types of movies go to streaming and the effects showcases go to the theater. Or if they go to a theater, it's with a limited run because people just don't go.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I personally don't think it's an erosion of quality. I think all of the different ways to consume media mean we have so many options, outside of big marvel style tent poles, that we don't have the same shared cultural experience that we used to. If Anora came out in 1999 and got the wide release of American Beauty, it might be more of what you would call generational. Also, I think that awards are more likely to reward movies that are challenging than they used to be. Those movies are also likely to be more divisive. Finally, technology advances in home viewing have killed the big awards movie. Basically, the market for big time blockbuster movies that have heart, but don't piss too many people off has dried up. Those types of movies go to streaming and the effects showcases go to the theater. Or if they go to a theater, it's with a limited run because people just don't go.

I think there was a very significant erosion in quality especially with Covid forcing producers to embrace the new reality of movie theaters. Great scripts dont always get matched with the best directors who pump $ into a star studded cast. So the market was flooded with marvel movies and sequels and kids movies.Agreed there were still great films from independent directors and it’s good to see the industry embrace them, but it feels like we’re finally hitting that happy medium again where a producer can get behind an original movie without the blockbuster gimmicks. I feel like this year was a really good step in the right direction for movies even if the top billing at the Oscar’s was a little underwhelming.

And credit to the Oscar’s for leaning into that. They seemed to very intentionally reward originality. Dune 2 was your Oppenheimer spectacle. A complete unknown was your standard overrewarded biopic like the overrated Elton John/queen movies (shame, since the complete unknown is legitimately good). Wicked is kind of that Barbie blockbuster. Anora and the brutalist are way more of a gimmick free movie which is a little refreshing.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I personally don't think it's an erosion of quality. I think all of the different ways to consume media mean we have so many options, outside of big marvel style tent poles, that we don't have the same shared cultural experience that we used to. If Anora came out in 1999 and got the wide release of American Beauty, it might be more of what you would call generational. Also, I think that awards are more likely to reward movies that are challenging than they used to be. Those movies are also likely to be more divisive. Finally, technology advances in home viewing have killed the big awards movie. Basically, the market for big time blockbuster movies that have heart, but don't piss too many people off has dried up. Those types of movies go to streaming and the effects showcases go to the theater. Or if they go to a theater, it's with a limited run because people just don't go.

Yes you’re right. The only big budget movies in the best picture category this year were Dune 2 and Wicked. Both established name IPs already. Everything else is basically an Independent film or low budget.

Foe the most part, People only go out to movie theaters anymore for the big budget
Blockbusters.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Frazod

The ironic thing is that the '84 movie doesn't butcher the book anywhere near as bad as the new one does. It was poorly made, poorly directed, had terrible special effects, had miscast/bad actors in crucial roles, and threw in some stupid shit, but overall it stuck to the story fairly well.

I actually think more highly of the '84 movie after seeing the latest one. THAT'S HOW MUCH I HATED IT.

There's a thread in the Media forum where I discuss at length why Dune Part 2 sucks every dick in the universe. I really don't want to relive that here anymore than I already have.

I’ve never read the books so that would make sense. I thought it was incredibly directed with musical scores and everything, but yeah that would be frustrating if it veers way too far off course.

Have you watched the Max prophecy show? I’ve found it incredibly boring but imagine it’s much closer to the books.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Frazod

I recently noticed that Dune Part 2 is on Netflix now. If you've never read the book or if the book isn't terribly important to you, you'll likely enjoy it. But if you love the book and were finally hoping for a faithful, competent adaptation, you'll be really pissed off. I personally hated it so much that I haven't been to movie theater since I saw it.

Not familiar with anything else that was nominated. Haven't watched the Oscars in years. No plans to ever watch it again.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

You mean like being a miserable, sniping, no life **** on the interwebs?

[wazu]

I have seen multiple hilarious clips on social media today of Conan O'Brien being Conan O'Brien and now feel like I should have watched.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by Frazod

The ironic thing is that the '84 movie doesn't butcher the book anywhere near as bad as the new one does. It was poorly made, poorly directed, had terrible special effects, had miscast/bad actors in crucial roles, and threw in some stupid shit, but overall it stuck to the story fairly well.

I actually think more highly of the '84 movie after seeing the latest one. THAT'S HOW MUCH I HATED IT.

There's a thread in the Media forum where I discuss at length why Dune Part 2 sucks every dick in the universe. I really don't want to relive that here anymore than I already have.

I'll go check out your recap in the Media forum

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

I'll go check out your recap in the Media forum

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=351368