Let's talk about the offseason (2025 edition)

[TLO]

Well. That sucked!

There are sure to be some big changes coming next season.

Talk about it here.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Something I've been bouncing around in my head last 24 or so hrs,

in this cap era, seems like every team has a weakness, every year. Ya can't put together a perfect team. You obviously wanna prevent them as much as possible especially at critical mass positions (see LT last year)... but there's always going to be something that threatens your team from reaching the goal.

But, is there ever a good reason not to take the BPA on your board in the draft? Assuming it's clear cut who the top guy is.

For example, let's say KC enters the draft with only Tranquill and Leo at LB. In theory the position is relatively weak short and long term. You feel like you should take one early. But it lines up where your BPA by far are guys at RB, DT, CB in some order early on. You never really have a LB on the board you love or think is a long term answer.

Is it not better to just say, well, damn LB might be a weak link we gotta work around for a year, but we're going to turn (insert position) into a mega strength?

You need a bunch of good to great players to win Super Bowls and be a dynasty (see draft classes 2021-22). Does it matter what positions they play, or is it just a race to have 20+ good to great players every year and you figure out how to leverage those strengths best from year to year?

[O.city]

The issue with drafting for “needs” is you don’t really know what needs are yet and you miss out on things.

If we’d have taken BPA we’d probably have Porter Jr and mcduffie at cb

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

The issue with drafting for “needs” is you don’t really know what needs are yet and you miss out on things.

If we’d have taken BPA we’d probably have Porter Jr and mcduffie at cb

Remember in 2021 when the Chiefs defense was composed of little talent and older declining players?

Mike Hughes, Daniel Sorenson, Ben Neumann, Anthony Hitchens, Alex Okafor and then older declining vets in Frank Clark and Tyrann Matheiu.

Feels like that’s where we are on offense now. Granted they’ve gotten a good start with Rice/Worthy but man they need to inject real talent and youth into some of these positions on offense.

To your point, DL looks incredible this year. I would think getting one of those beasts would be a priority as BPA in rd 1.

[Straight, No Chaser]

Originally Posted by YontsRBake

The way Mahomes and Hollywood were talking to each other at the end of the SB makes it seem like it’s already a done deal that he’s coming back. Veach will find a way to bring Trey back as well.

Also strongly believe that Kingsley is going to be the day 1 starter at LT next year and they will draft a CB round 1.

It's amazing that some people think Trey is coming back... he gone. They are likely going with what they have, shuffle the deck, let training camp decide the 5 best. Maybe they draft OL...

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser

It's amazing that some people think Trey is coming back... he gone. They are likely going with what they have, shuffle the deck, let training camp decide the 5 best. Maybe they draft OL...

I’m one of those guys, I think he’s the most likely FA to return. We have 1.5 holes already at OT, seems like a step backward to let a top OG go. Was this his best year? No. But who’s guaranteed to be better? I’m influenced by a video I saw that indicated his struggles are tied to Taylor’s play style.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I’m one of those guys, I think he’s the most likely FA to return. We have 1.5 holes already at OT, seems like a step backward to let a top OG go. Was this his best year? No. But who’s guaranteed to be better? I’m influenced by a video I saw that indicated his struggles are tied to Taylor’s play style.

Trey is probably going to be highest-paid guard in the NFL. He's not worth it, at all.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I’m one of those guys, I think he’s the most likely FA to return. We have 1.5 holes already at OT, seems like a step backward to let a top OG go. Was this his best year? No. But who’s guaranteed to be better? I’m influenced by a video I saw that indicated his struggles are tied to Taylor’s play style.

Maybe it's just me but I think paying your interior OL like they are OT's is a recipe for disaster.

The only way paying Trey makes any sense at all is if you're done with Thuney and honestly Trey isn't a perfect fit in the Chiefs scheme.

[Sassy Squatch]

Paying Trey Smith would be incredibly annoying. On any given Sunday this season he'd be the second worst OL on the field for the Chiefs and there were a couple games he was worse than the rotating door of sadness at LT.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Paying Trey Smith would be incredibly annoying. On any given Sunday this season he'd be the second worst OL on the field for the Chiefs and there were a couple games he was worse than the rotating door of sadness at LT.

He's not a great fit for what the Chiefs do on offense, also he and Taylor's skill sets don't fit together at all. Like I feel like Thuney and Taylor would combo really well together.

Like I think Trey Smith would look like a dominant monster if he played for Detroit but he's in an offense that is nothing like that.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He's not a great fit for what the Chiefs do on offense, also he and Taylor's skill sets don't fit together at all. Like I feel like Thuney and Taylor would combo really well together.

Like I think Trey Smith would look like a dominant monster if he played for Detroit but he's in an offense that is nothing like that.

That's what I'm hoping becomes of a Kingsley + Taylor combo on the right side.

One would think Kingsley will be a better pass blocker than run blocker as a guard. That might help us to better handle Taylor's spacing.

[kccrow]

4/60 would be way too rich IMO but I've come to accept these things over the years.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kccrow

4/60 would be way too rich IMO but I've come to accept these things over the years.

For Bolton? That's not a bad contract at all if they structure it right.

[Mecca]

If Bolton and his agent are being honest about his value he'll look at Patrick Queens contract and look to marginally top that. So somewhere around an AAV of 14.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If Bolton and his agent are being honest about his value he'll look at Patrick Queens contract and look to marginally top that. So somewhere around an AAV of 14.

That's what it will be unless some stupid team like the Raiders wants to try to screw us over and give out a Christian Kirk-esque deal.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If Bolton and his agent are being honest about his value he'll look at Patrick Queens contract and look to marginally top that. So somewhere around an AAV of 14.

With inflation it would be around $15 million for that deal this year. But that’s the line for me with Bolton. If he wants more than $15 million APY I think you tell him good luck and let him go.

I think they are going to keep him though bc Trey is way overpriced and running Spags defense requires football IQ that Bolton and Reid provided on the back end.

I don’t think Spags wants to lose both guys. I think he’s been hammering to Veach that they must keep Bolton