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Old 02-05-2025, 11:14 AM  
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Tush Push
Ok, lot of great minds out there so lets have at it. How do the Chiefs stop the tush push. My thinking is to line 2 interior linemen on each side of the center. Right behind them with a slight angle to the center are 2 more big body linemen. All eyes are watching the ball. As soon as it starts moving, the 2 columns push forward. The behind linemen pushing the forward linemen. The ends seal the edge while line backers, corners and safeties watch for a pass.
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Old 02-17-2025, 12:47 PM   #46
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What about a RB running into a pile of defenders, and then a bunch of his teamates jump in and push him against the defenders? Honestly, that's one of my favorite things to watch, and in the case of Kareem Hunt, it seems he's gonna get another 5 yards maybe more because he keeps churning while being pushed. But without that help, he'd not get that extra yardage.

I dunno, I don't mind it in that type scenario. But in a scenario where (like the tush push) it's a planned part of the play...seems like it should not be allowed.
That was a penalty back in the day. I'd argue, just like with the tush push, it should be one now. You shouldn't be able to assist the runner by moving his body. Move the opponents but not the runner.
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Old 02-17-2025, 12:58 PM   #47
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That was a penalty back in the day. I'd argue, just like with the tush push, it should be one now. You shouldn't be able to assist the runner by moving his body. Move the opponents but not the runner.
Fair enough.
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Old 02-17-2025, 01:00 PM   #48
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I would argue rugby scrums increase the likelihood of player injury. The offense shouldn't be allowed to assist a ball carrier in any way, IMO.
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Old 02-17-2025, 01:05 PM   #49
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Except it's very hard to get lower than the OLine, who are largely bear crawling anyway.
Just expand "blocking below the waist" so it applies to all situations.
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The Chiefs absolutely need to get good at this with their backup QB. One year of the Chiefs running the tush push and the league will insta-ban it.
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Old 02-17-2025, 06:25 PM   #52
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How to stop the Tush Push = Don’t get yourself into a 4th and 1 or 2 situation with the Philadelphia Eagles. That’s it.
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Old 02-18-2025, 01:09 PM   #53
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I would argue rugby scrums increase the likelihood of player injury. The offense shouldn't be allowed to assist a ball carrier in any way, IMO.
I thought Jones got hurt on the first one of the game--neck
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I thought Jones got hurt on the first one of the game--neck
Looked like he had a stinger.
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Old 02-18-2025, 03:00 PM   #55
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I thought Jones got hurt on the first one of the game--neck
Yeah, it seemed like a wierd attempt to stop the play. He looked like he angled in and was attempting to shove the center sideways. But it made it to easy for the G to shove him in the endzone.

To me the only thing you can do is try and match the OL and pushers power. Which given their size is impossible.
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Extra beef in the middle, then send 3 or 4 DBs/LBs straight down the line and take out the legs of the pushers.
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What stops an action? An equal and opposite reaction. You mirror the offense. Line up man to man, just offset like the previous video explains (zipper), with a beefy guy on D as the QB and two guys behind him.

It's simple physics...you just have to be able to react to the snap quick enough and your guys have to be similar in size and strength to their guys.
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What stops an action? An equal and opposite reaction. You mirror the offense. Line up man to man, just offset like the previous video explains (zipper), with a beefy guy on D as the QB and two guys behind him.

It's simple physics...you just have to be able to react to the snap quick enough and your guys have to be similar in size and strength to their guys.
Or, they could reinstate the rule that RBs are to be unaided. Like it used to be before all this nonsense started. "I know, let's just pick him up and carry him across the line!"
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Unidentified Team submits proposal to ban Tush Push.

It will at least be discussed by team owners over the next 4-5 weeks.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-ban-tush-push
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