Tush Push

[Marada]

Ok, lot of great minds out there so lets have at it. How do the Chiefs stop the tush push. My thinking is to line 2 interior linemen on each side of the center. Right behind them with a slight angle to the center are 2 more big body linemen. All eyes are watching the ball. As soon as it starts moving, the 2 columns push forward. The behind linemen pushing the forward linemen. The ends seal the edge while line backers, corners and safeties watch for a pass.

[Calcountry]

when at the bottom of the pile, grab some flesh and bite the f out of it till it bleeds. Then maybe they quit doing it. (i'm just kidding)

[T-post Tom]

Have CJ sneak into the Eagles locker room before the game and threaten Hurts with a real “tush push.” Hurts won’t want to go anywhere near the D line after that.

[TinyEvel]

Would it make sense to stack the line with the heaviest and strongest guys on the team, including Offensive linemen? Then three of the most powerful guys behind them pushing also? And two edges coming into the backfield from the side to smash into the Eagles pushers sideways to throw them off the pile.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

The easy answer is not to get in third and fourth and one.

I think you have to get the momentum going to the side rather than trying to go right at them. If you get their line moving left or right instead of downhill, you can change the momentum of the movement.

If Jalen is having to go left or right a couple of yards to pick it up, that's a different equation than going downhill for a half yard.

I have been saying this since it came out, you attack by angle!

Plus the Eagles get lower when they line up.

So more BEEF up front, the strongest guys you have and I would even BEEF UP behind your DL. It's about strength and the angle of your attack.


Stay out of the short yardage situations


As for Buffalo, they just executed poorly. Always going 1 way, to Allens left. Plus Allen comes in high, not low like Hurts does.

We can't attack the wedge the same way like Buffalo, just can't.

[BWillie]

Mike Pennel mofo

[Warrior5]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Mike Pennel mofo

Cankles FTW!!!

[Hammock Parties]

with our dicks

did you miss the bills game?

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Keeping them behind the chains is the only way.

[Direckshun]

Brett Kollman has a video on potentially how to stop the tush push.



In short, he thinks the secret to success is that everybody on the interior of the DL is lined up to stop the center. But the secret sauce is that the left guard and left tackle attack inward, rather than blocking straight across from them. That creates a power-double at the point of attack against DTs who are kinda being earholed by the left side of the line, who they aren't targeting.

The best answer he has: try a more "zipper"-type of formation, where you line all of your DL up in every gap against the DL, and attack straight forward, rather than attacking the A gaps and the center.

[Mile High Mania]

Every time I hear “tush push”… Cinderella plays in my mind.

[kccrow]

I have been thinking about this and why the hell the NFL made it legal in 2005?

It used to be illegal and part of the Assisting the Runner penalty.

I hate the play, honestly. Not because of the Eagles or any particular loss to it... It's just the premise that you are assisting the runner in gaining yards by moving his body in some way. I don't think that should be allowed whether it's a pull or a push. If you're going to enable pushing then why not pulling or lifting and carrying?

[ThrobProng]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Brett Kollman has a video on potentially how to stop the tush push.



In short, he thinks the secret to success is that everybody on the interior of the DL is lined up to stop the center. But the secret sauce is that the left guard and left tackle attack inward, rather than blocking straight across from them. That creates a power-double at the point of attack against DTs who are kinda being earholed by the left side of the line, who they aren't targeting.

The best answer he has: try a more "zipper"-type of formation, where you line all of your DL up in every gap against the DL, and attack straight forward, rather than attacking the A gaps and the center.

Forget stopping the ball carrier, just have the DL dive at the knees of the OL.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I have been thinking about this and why the hell the NFL made it legal in 2005?

It used to be illegal and part of the Assisting the Runner penalty.

I hate the play, honestly. Not because of the Eagles or any particular loss to it... It's just the premise that you are assisting the runner in gaining yards by moving his body in some way. I don't think that should be allowed whether it's a pull or a push. If you're going to enable pushing then why not pulling or lifting and carrying?

What about a RB running into a pile of defenders, and then a bunch of his teamates jump in and push him against the defenders? Honestly, that's one of my favorite things to watch, and in the case of Kareem Hunt, it seems he's gonna get another 5 yards maybe more because he keeps churning while being pushed. But without that help, he'd not get that extra yardage.

I dunno, I don't mind it in that type scenario. But in a scenario where (like the tush push) it's a planned part of the play...seems like it should not be allowed.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by ThrobProng

Forget stopping the ball carrier, just have the DL dive at the knees of the OL.

Except it's very hard to get lower than the OLine, who are largely bear crawling anyway.

[SHOWTIME]

Mailata and Dickerson are the key to how it works for them. They are two massive o-linemen on the left side of their line and Hurts goes behind them almost all the time. Literally impossible to stop on short gains. On top of that, you have Goedert and Barkley pushing Hurts from behind.