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Old 02-16-2025, 02:50 PM  
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Do you still believe is Mahomes and our coaching staff?

I for one do. We have seen them rise up and shut the critics up enough to not lose faith. It was ugly and surprising for sure but the SB magnifies everything for some reason. Mahomes for sure is no quitter and neither is Veach and Andy. We will recover and be right back in the AFCCG for another shot.
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Old 02-16-2025, 04:24 PM   #46
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Old 02-16-2025, 04:25 PM   #47
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I trust him mostly but cronyism is Andy’s biggest weakness.
I’m sure to Andy it would be hard to justify letting coaches go given the fave that we’ve just played in 3 straight SBs. Andy thinks in X’s and O’s. And I bet he believes we’re only a few pieces away from getting back to more SBs. But it would likely take an abomination of a season for him to justify firing coaches after our current run of success.

But, he DID what he needed to do with Sutton, and bringing in Spags.
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Old 02-16-2025, 04:26 PM   #48
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Andy hires the assistant coaches. There's a clear separation of powers since Pioli was let go. If you're not happy with assistant coaches, you're by definition not happy with Andy because that's his job.
I think Andy has always been great at thinking outside the box...He is not gonna limit himself to keeping his beloved coaches if ...He is not that set in his ways...He can still change and evolve with the best of em...He has prob hired and fired a hundred different coaches
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Old 02-16-2025, 04:29 PM   #49
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I’m not suggesting Mahomes or Reid were ever taking it easy entering these Super Bowls, but Brady did an interview for Cowherd right before the game last week, and he talked about how after losing the two SBs to the Giants, he decided if/when he got back, he would go 24/7 pedal to the metal prepping for those games so there was absolutely no way he could feel like he didn’t do all he could.

I gotta believe Mahomes is at that point now after last week. Where he’s going to be obsessive about the prep and want to make sure he knows exactly what defenses are going to do, and go over worst case scenarios ahead of time so adjustments are in place. In other words, he’s going to have to protect against Andy’s weaknesses.
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Old 02-16-2025, 04:36 PM   #50
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Nah man we can all recognize his brilliance while also seeing the flaws, no HC is perfect
Recognizing flaws and wanting individual coaches fired are two different things.
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Old 02-16-2025, 05:10 PM   #53
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Yes, to be a contender and make a deep playoff run.

But I'm concerned about the lack of game planning in the first half of these Super Bowls. Five times doesn't make a coincidence. Andy and Mahomes have looked unprepared until halftime of each Super Bowl. Something needs to change to avoid either getting blown out or having to make a second half comeback against the best opposition from the NFC.
I’d agree. I think Reid should reconsider his routine between the conference championship and Super Bowl. Installing the game plan in the first week and letting it sit idle in media circus week doesn’t work. I remember the Patriots talking about how they’d be working on situational football, opponent tendencies, and some self scouting in hotel conference rooms up until the last minute. That’s the drive needed to knock off a super team like the 400 million dollar Eagles roster.
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Old 02-16-2025, 05:17 PM   #54
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I think it's as simple as a couple of things.

1)The league is designed to make what KC accomplished (and ALMOST accomplished) nearly impossible.
2) The guys just flat ran out of gas. Nobody had ever been able to do it before, and they just emptied the tank on Buffalo.

Picking at the end of every round, plus paying some expensive stars, plus playing more high emotion games than anyone else for multiple years just finally wore them out. Physically and emotionally.

We have some glaring holes to fill, and Veach has always been aggressive when that's the case.

I have total faith they'll get KC right back in it next year.
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I think it's as simple as a couple of things.

1)The league is designed to make what KC accomplished (and ALMOST accomplished) nearly impossible.
2) The guys just flat ran out of gas. Nobody had ever been able to do it before, and they just emptied the tank on Buffalo.

Picking at the end of every round, plus paying some expensive stars, plus playing more high emotion games than anyone else for multiple years just finally wore them out. Physically and emotionally.

We have some glaring holes to fill, and Veach has always been aggressive when that's the case.

I have total faith they'll get KC right back in it next year.
I do also, but they need to ditch the idea of turning Patrick Mahomes into Alex Smith.
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Old 02-16-2025, 06:16 PM   #57
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I do also, but they need to ditch the idea of turning Patrick Mahomes into Alex Smith.
Patrick is also turning himself into Alex. He tried many times to hit some deep shots this season. He just couldn’t connect on them for one reason or another. Part of the reason the deep passing game took a shit was Pat wasn’t hitting those throws. Part was also that most of our weapons that were available to us this season were lacking in separation ability.

Tyreek leaving was HUGE for the deep passing game. Not only could he separate from pretty much any defender, but his ball tracking was elite. Worthy’s got better as the season and playoffs wore on. But Reek was fast enough to get under a lot of those balls, and honestly think he hid some of Pats warts with the deep ball.
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Patrick is also turning himself into Alex. He tried many times to hit some deep shots this season. He just couldn’t connect on them for one reason or another. Part of the reason the deep passing game took a shit was Pat wasn’t hitting those throws. Part was also that most of our weapons that were available to us this season were lacking in separation ability.

Tyreek leaving was HUGE for the deep passing game. Not only could he separate from pretty much any defender, but his ball tracking was elite. Worthy’s got better as the season and playoffs wore on. But Reek was fast enough to get under a lot of those balls, and honestly think he hid some of Pats warts with the deep ball.
True...Its had an effect on him.
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Patrick is also turning himself into Alex. He tried many times to hit some deep shots this season. He just couldn’t connect on them for one reason or another. Part of the reason the deep passing game took a shit was Pat wasn’t hitting those throws. Part was also that most of our weapons that were available to us this season were lacking in separation ability.

Tyreek leaving was HUGE for the deep passing game. Not only could he separate from pretty much any defender, but his ball tracking was elite. Worthy’s got better as the season and playoffs wore on. But Reek was fast enough to get under a lot of those balls, and honestly think he hid some of Pats warts with the deep ball.
Ironically that deep TD to worthy in the Super Bowl might have been his best thrown deep ball all year. Right on the money and a beautiful catch.
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Why is the offense regressing?
Because we had no left tackle, Rice went on IR early and Pacheco is now a broke dick and his replacement averaged 3.6 YPC.

This isn't rocket surgery. The Chiefs just need better players.
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