Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I think it will be DJ Humphries coming back with Kingsley backing him up. This is the present and the future.

DJ is as good of a solution as there is available in FA and should be reasonable to sign. Stanley is very good but his injury history and contract is way to risky.
Jackson is decent but not a good fit and will also be very expensive. Could say the same about Robinson, decent but expensive.

This makes the most sense and allows us to remove LT in the draft.

Kingsley is LTOTF and he will be a beast!

No way, they will bring someone in for competition purposes at minimum. I would imagine Clark Hunt would demand it after getting embarrassed in Superbowls twice now for essentially the same issue. No way they go into next season with essentially the same personnel they had in the blowout loss to the Eagles.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Correct. No one thought he was a polished prospect coming out. He has upside but shouldn’t have been expected to be elite right away.

He has more upside than some of the guys people are wanting to trade up for in this draft.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

This.



You don't spend a 2nd round pick on that raw of a player with LT upside only to give up and move him to guard after 1 year or there is something wrong with your strategy.

But is he an Alpha LT prospect? Sorry, just had to give you a little rub on that one.

Remember when the Bears drafted Teven Jenkins early in Round 2, tried to put him at LT, he failed, and they moved him inside to OG?

How about Dillon Radunz drafted towards the end of the 2nd, put in at LT for the Titans and moved to OG the next season?

Sam Cosmi was drafted mid-2nd to be a LT, they moved him to RT in camp then ended up moving him to RG a year or two later.

Robert Hunt went from RT to RG the following year.

That's not considering some 1st rounders. Mekhi Becton, LT to RT to RG. Tyler Smith LT to LG, etc.

So, it can be a thing is all I'm pointing out here.

It's the best-case scenario that Suamatatai stays at LT and you hedge that with a vet like re-signing Humphries. I HOPE for that. It just may not be reality. I honestly hoped to at least see him get reps at RT before getting reps at LG but that's not what they did. It doesn't bode well.

[RunKC]

I don’t think people understand how good of a draft this is for weapons this year.

TreVeyon Henderson’s don’t fall in the draft guys. A guy with that kind of vision, receiving ability and reportedly runs a 4.39? That’s Jahmyr Gibbs territory. Imagine that on this football team?

Someone is gonna fall to us. Tetairoa McMillan, Tyler Warren, Ashton Jeanty, Coleston Loveland, Emeka Egbuka and Luther Burden will likely all go before us. That’s 6 guys.

Someone is falling. And it’s probably Henderson. I am also loving what I am seeing from Miami TE Elijah Arroyo as well. He looks like a great fit for us to.

I just don’t see how you pass on these guys for a project LT like Josh Conerly who IMO does not look to be any better for us than Kingsley.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by kccrow

But is he an Alpha LT prospect? Sorry, just had to give you a little rub on that one.

Remember when the Bears drafted Teven Jenkins early in Round 2, tried to put him at LT, he failed, and they moved him inside to OG?

How about Dillon Radunz drafted towards the end of the 2nd, put in at LT for the Titans and moved to OG the next season?

Sam Cosmi was drafted mid-2nd to be a LT, they moved him to RT in camp then ended up moving him to RG a year or two later.

Robert Hunt went from RT to RG the following year.

That's not considering some 1st rounders. Mekhi Becton, LT to RT to RG. Tyler Smith LT to LG, etc.

So, it can be a thing is all I'm pointing out here.

It's the best-case scenario that Suamatatai stays at LT and you hedge that with a vet like re-signing Humphries. I HOPE for that. It just may not be reality. I honestly hoped to at least see him get reps at RT before getting reps at LG but that's not what they did. It doesn't bode well.

Sure, but he was a talented but raw prospect.

Moving him to guard before Year 2 is nothing but a panic move, IMO.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I don’t think people understand how good of a draft this is for weapons this year.

TreVeyon Henderson’s don’t fall in the draft guys. A guy with that kind of vision, receiving ability and reportedly runs a 4.39? That’s Jahmyr Gibbs territory. Imagine that on this football team?

Someone is gonna fall to us. Tetairoa McMillan, Tyler Warren, Ashton Jeanty, Coleston Loveland, Emeka Egbuka and Luther Burden will likely all go before us. That’s 6 guys.

Someone is falling. And it’s probably Henderson. I am also loving what I am seeing from Miami TE Elijah Arroyo as well. He looks like a great fit for us to.

I just don’t see how you pass on these guys for a project LT like Josh Conerly who IMO does not look to be any better for us than Kingsley.

Because we've seen in real time for years at this point the effect of competent LT play or the lack there of on Mahomes. It's the biggest multiplier in either direction.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Because we've seen in real time for years at this point the effect of competent LT play or the lack there of on Mahomes. It's the biggest multiplier in either direction.

This, and yet…

It’s on Andy to fix this. We aren’t getting an elite left tackle in 2025. We’ll be lucky as all hell to get Eric Fisher level production.

So tweak your offense to help the LT a lot. Ensure you have a legit rushing threat.

We aren’t asking you to run your offense through Toney, MVS, and Justin Watson. The WRs are in better shape than they’ve been since 2019.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Because we've seen in real time for years at this point the effect of competent LT play or the lack there of on Mahomes. It's the biggest multiplier in either direction.

I’ve been told this is a bad tackle class and trading up for one isn’t worth it.

You can whine and throw your hands up all you want but the options at tackle are less than ideal in the draft and FA.

The worst thing you can do is reach for need on another unknown project tackle and pass on a known premier talent.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I’ve been told this is a bad tackle class and trading up for one isn’t worth it.

You can whine and throw your hands up all you want but the options at tackle are less than ideal in the draft and FA.

The worst thing you can do is reach for need on another unknown project tackle and pass on a known premier talent.

Serious question for the masses since you brought this up...

Why do people assume (and I'm not saying YOU are specifically but it's pertinent here), that because a class is "bad" at a position, the players all suck at that position?

Because that ALWAYS happens. Just because the OT class is weak, doesn't mean they all suck. LT Simmons, LT Campbell (if he sticks due to arm length), RT Membou, LT Conerly, and LT Banks are all pretty well CONSENSUS 1st round picks. None of them are bad and most all are widely considered to be top-25 players.

The depth of the class is weak, absolutely. There are a few developmental LTs and a few developmental RTs but it's not like last year where it was stronger into the 3rd round.

We should not assume a prospect in this class is somehow less of a prospect than Suamataia because that is simply not true. Conerly is about the same prospect this year as Fautanu was coming out last year from build, to athleticism, to the way they play the game. Fautanu was drafted at #20.

[Boxer_Chief]

I don’t want to hear FA tackles are too expensive. That literally holds no weight. If veach thinks they’re a fit he will move heaven and earth to acquire a tackle in FA. It doesn’t matter the price it has to be done then we can draft playmakers which there are a plethora of in this draft and it’s freed up because tackle is taken care of.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief

I don’t want to hear FA tackles are too expensive. That literally holds no weight. If veach thinks they’re a fit he will move heaven and earth to acquire a tackle in FA. It doesn’t matter the price it has to be done then we can draft playmakers which there are a plethora of in this draft and it’s freed up because tackle is taken care of.

And we don't want to hear it when Cam Robinson ends up being Jawaan Taylor. If they overpay for a mediocre LT, remember that's what you wanted.

[dtrain]

First it doesn't really matter if Suamatia was drafted as a LT and ends up being a good guard because it is still a cheap contract that helps out the cap. Second I think when it is all said and done Suamatia will be a guard this year or next and Morris will be right tackle after Taylor is done. They will try to sign one of the FA LT if that doesn't work they will resign Humphries (maybe 2-3 yrs) and draft a tackle. Suamatia looked good at guard and Morris looked good at RT.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dtrain

First it doesn't really matter if Suamatia was drafted as a LT and ends up being a good guard because it is still a cheap contract that helps out the cap. Second I think when it is all said and done Suamatia will be a guard this year or next and Morris will be right tackle after Taylor is done. They will try to sign one of the FA LT if that doesn't work they will resign Humphries (maybe 2-3 yrs) and draft a tackle. Suamatia looked good at guard and Morris looked good at RT.

No, it doesn't matter if he ends up at guard. But people assuming he will after one season where he barely played are jumping the gun. Unless somebody miraculous hits the market, he's going to get another shot at LT. Considering how they've handled other draft picks like this one, he will probably get shots for a while. Maybe for the remainder of his contract. People are giving up way too early.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No, it doesn't matter if he ends up at guard. But people assuming he will after one season where he barely played are jumping the gun. Unless somebody miraculous hits the market, he's going to get another shot at LT. Considering how they've handled other draft picks like this one, he will probably get shots for a while. Maybe for the remainder of his contract. People are giving up way too early.

Yup, they're going to give him every opportunity to take that spot and rightfully so

Look no further than how many chances Skyy Moore got as a second rounder, you want and you NEED someone taken that high to pan out

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I don’t think people understand how good of a draft this is for weapons this year.

TreVeyon Henderson’s don’t fall in the draft guys. A guy with that kind of vision, receiving ability and reportedly runs a 4.39? That’s Jahmyr Gibbs territory. Imagine that on this football team?

Someone is gonna fall to us. Tetairoa McMillan, Tyler Warren, Ashton Jeanty, Coleston Loveland, Emeka Egbuka and Luther Burden will likely all go before us. That’s 6 guys.

Someone is falling. And it’s probably Henderson. I am also loving what I am seeing from Miami TE Elijah Arroyo as well. He looks like a great fit for us to.

I just don’t see how you pass on these guys for a project LT like Josh Conerly who IMO does not look to be any better for us than Kingsley.

I’d say there about 10% chance they go tackle in the draft.

To pass on legit tackles in FA only hoping to see if a tackle falls or a possible trade up? Just don’t see that happening.