A Level Headed Review Super Bowl LIX

[DenverChief]

First and foremost congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles on a fantastic game plan. They knew what our weakness was and they exploited it to the max.

First a couple of bright spots -

The Defense did a helluva job keeping us in the game for as long as they did. The final score should have been 29-22. If not for Pats two ill timed passes one for a pick six, this game is much closer. Hurts and Barkley had good games but it wasn't anything spectacular. Mcduffie had a very difficult assignment against AJ Brown and while he didn't shut him out he definitely didn't allow him to run wild. So major accolades to the Defense. One minor note to mention Bolton has to be using his head out there - the unnecessary roughness call was ticky tacky but don't even put yourself in the position to let the official make a judgement call.

Xavier Worthy really came into his own tonight (8/8 157 yards 2 TDs). Worthy has a very bright future with the Chiefs and will make this offense explosive again, Dhop has done a wonderful job of mentoring this young man. Outside of Dhop (late in the game) Worthy was the only receiver to have an impact on this game.

The Ugly -

This is the second time we have lost a Super Bowl because of our O-Line. Flat out each turnover was a direct result of the offensive line (Specifically the left side) getting their sh*t pushed in. Thuney is an amazing guard and a serviceable left tackle. But when you play the #1 defense serviceable just doesn't cut it. Caliendo is below average at guard and just got destroyed out there by a superior opponent. Offensive line MUST be something that is worked on in the off season. It must have been really telling about DJ Humphries abilities if they didn't even consider making the half time adjustment to move him out there and put Thuney back at guard.

NO RUNNING GAME - we saw so much success with running Kareem Hunt during the playoffs and we completely abandoned it. Part of it is the down and distances we found ourselves in in the first half and the lack of offensive possessions. The second half was playing catch up and no time to run the ball I get it but we should have tried harder to run earlier. But 11 total rushes in this game 4 of them by Pat is unacceptable.

Pat getting cute - a couple of times Pat could have rushed for more yardage and he tried his getting cute tricks to hold the defenders. They were on to it and not biting. He needs to learn sometimes you just take off running and get what you can.

Next year -

Even though he mostly disappeared in the playoffs (possibly due to game plan) I would like to see Dhop back if he has one more year. I would also like to see Brown come back on a one year deal again. Kelce looked like he was tired, I'm not sure he comes back for his final contract year - maybe he does, reinvigorated by this horrible loss, we will see. I think the defense is going to suffer the most with player losses as we won't have the money to resign them all. I believe Reid, Omenihu, and Bolton to name a few and others will be looking for another contract.

Lessons learned - Doesn't matter how many weapons you give Pat if you can't block for him you won't win. Gotta keep the OL in the forefront of our planning. As we have seen twice now Pat running for his life is a recipe for disaster.

Thank you all for reading my thoughts after games this year. I appreciate the feedback and enjoy trying to keep a lid on the crazy that permeates this forum at times.

See you during the draft!

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by mschiefs1984

Simply put this one is on Andy. When you get taken to the woodshed like that and the other team is just clearly better prepared and disciplined it's on the Head coach.

Not sure what preparation would have solved the problems the O Liine were having.

The problem wasn't penalties nor was it confusion about assignments. Philly's D Line was simply better than our O Line. And it wasn't close.

Doesn't matter what the offensive game plan is if you have no protection you will not be able to execute it.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Not sure what preparation would have solved the problems the O Liine were having.

The problem wasn't penalties nor was it confusion about assignments. Philly's D Line was simply better than our O Line. And it wasn't close.

Doesn't matter what the offensive game plan is if you have no protection you will not be able to execute it.

yeah that's basically it as far as i can tell. we can doom and gloom all we want but if we had even a decent LT and keep Thuney in his normal position, we win this game by 3 or 7. Eagles had pretty much a perfect match up and had to not screw it up and to their credit they did exactly what they needed to do. We sacrificed being able to establish a run game to shore up the LT and it didn't work.

Fix the LT, don't lose all your WRs at before the week 6 bye and we'll continue the dynasty. At least next year we'll get to play the underdog because everyone will say we're frauds and the dynasty is over. And in 2027 everyone will have Chiefs fatigue again

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by lcarus

You absolutely can blame the o-line. That's absurdity. They didn't blitz one time all game and still had like a 55% pressure rate.

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Philly got constant and instant pressure without having to blitz… explain how a QB is supposed to be effective in that situation.

90% is an absurdly high % to put on Pat. He has to wear some of it though. At least 2 of the sacks he had a clean pocket if he steps up. Brady mentioned Pat's happy feet/bad footwork several times and he was right.

OL was awful, especially the left side. The gameplan was really bad as well. Seemingly no changes coming out of halftime until about 5 minutes left in the third when it was already over.

Fix the OL and those other problems aren't enough to kill the game.

[Fishels]

I would feel a lot better if we knew we have another chance to threepeat

Would be fine if this was just a one off random SB

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I cannot remember a less exciting and innovative looking gameplan from Andy Reid in any recent game, we looked stale AF just awful

Yeah, I was expecting some new and exciting stuff he had been saving up.

Nope.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

it's been a couple of days now, and thinking about where we were before Reid came, to where we are now it's hard to be that upset. Still would have liked to have one but going from a Palko/Croyle/Thigpen QB controversy to "oh no we didn't win 3 Superbowls in a row, only 2" it's hard to be like that disappointed. And it's not like Mahomes is retiring and we're going to be wandering the desert for a decade, we have very fixable issues that can be solved in a season or maybe 2.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

it's been a couple of days now, and thinking about where we were before Reid came, to where we are now it's hard to be that upset. Still would have liked to have one but going from a Palko/Croyle/Thigpen QB controversy to "oh no we didn't win 3 Superbowls in a row, only 2" it's hard to be like that disappointed. And it's not like Mahomes is retiring and we're going to be wandering the desert for a decade, we have very fixable issues that can be solved in a season or maybe 2.

Key is to not let ten years go by before Pat gets his 4th ring like NE did with Brady...he's got to win at least 3 before he turns 40 if he going be in the GOAT discussion again.

[cmd227]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

Oh one other thought - on the Pat fumble, that should have been a RTP with both hands to the facemask of Pat as he was being stripped of the ball. Don't think it changes the outcome of the game but that was a bad missed call.

Look closer at that play. Carter is being put in a sleeper hold before the slap. Both could have been called.

[Rainbarrel]

We're not spoiled anymore, at least I would hope to think not. This shellacking killed any chance of that infection surfacing. Bandaid ripped right off

[MMA_Influenced]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

First and foremost congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles on a fantastic game plan. They knew what our weakness was and they exploited it to the max.

First a couple of bright spots -

The Defense did a helluva job keeping us in the game for as long as they did. The final score should have been 29-22. If not for Pats two ill timed passes one for a pick six, this game is much closer. Hurts and Barkley had good games but it wasn't anything spectacular. Mcduffie had a very difficult assignment against AJ Brown and while he didn't shut him out he definitely didn't allow him to run wild. So major accolades to the Defense. One minor note to mention Bolton has to be using his head out there - the unnecessary roughness call was ticky tacky but don't even put yourself in the position to let the official make a judgement call.

Xavier Worthy really came into his own tonight (8/8 157 yards 2 TDs). Worthy has a very bright future with the Chiefs and will make this offense explosive again, Dhop has done a wonderful job of mentoring this young man. Outside of Dhop (late in the game) Worthy was the only receiver to have an impact on this game.

The Ugly -

This is the second time we have lost a Super Bowl because of our O-Line. Flat out each turnover was a direct result of the offensive line (Specifically the left side) getting their sh*t pushed in. Thuney is an amazing guard and a serviceable left tackle. But when you play the #1 defense serviceable just doesn't cut it. Caliendo is below average at guard and just got destroyed out there by a superior opponent. Offensive line MUST be something that is worked on in the off season. It must have been really telling about DJ Humphries abilities if they didn't even consider making the half time adjustment to move him out there and put Thuney back at guard.

NO RUNNING GAME - we saw so much success with running Kareem Hunt during the playoffs and we completely abandoned it. Part of it is the down and distances we found ourselves in in the first half and the lack of offensive possessions. The second half was playing catch up and no time to run the ball I get it but we should have tried harder to run earlier. But 11 total rushes in this game 4 of them by Pat is unacceptable.

Pat getting cute - a couple of times Pat could have rushed for more yardage and he tried his getting cute tricks to hold the defenders. They were on to it and not biting. He needs to learn sometimes you just take off running and get what you can.

Next year -

Even though he mostly disappeared in the playoffs (possibly due to game plan) I would like to see Dhop back if he has one more year. I would also like to see Brown come back on a one year deal again. Kelce looked like he was tired, I'm not sure he comes back for his final contract year - maybe he does, reinvigorated by this horrible loss, we will see. I think the defense is going to suffer the most with player losses as we won't have the money to resign them all. I believe Reid, Omenihu, and Bolton to name a few and others will be looking for another contract.

Lessons learned - Doesn't matter how many weapons you give Pat if you can't block for him you won't win. Gotta keep the OL in the forefront of our planning. As we have seen twice now Pat running for his life is a recipe for disaster.

Thank you all for reading my thoughts after games this year. I appreciate the feedback and enjoy trying to keep a lid on the crazy that permeates this forum at times.

See you during the draft!

This is being level headed. Thinking the game should of ended 29-22. Hitting the rewind button on multiple critical turnovers meanwhile still counting all 22 points that was scored of which 16 of which happened in garbage time and the Eagles pulling their starters.....yeah.

Here's a truly level headed approach. The Chiefs had a vastly inferior roster than the Eagles who were a Juggernaut and nothing they could have done would of changed the fact that they weren't good enough. The only 2 spots the Chiefs were better at were QB and Headcoach but then again the Eagles were good there too. So you get curb stomped in every single other match up.

The offensive line -Eagles vastly superior
The defensive line -Eagles vastly superior
Rbs - Eagles vastly superior
WRs - Eagles vastly superior
TE - The closest yet and probably they have the better tight end at this point in Kelces career as Goedert is likely a top 5 tight end.
Linebacker- Eagles vastly superior
Cornerbacks - Eagles vastly superior
Safteys - Eagles vastly superior

You cant just roll the ball out and say Mahomes is batman and can do it by himself. The offensive line was overrated and now we lost Thuney.

We talk Veach up like he's so good. We have no cap room and average talent outside of Mahomes at best and we still lost one of our best offensive lineman on the team when we were killed I'm the superbowl by their defensive line. We might as well not even show up next year. If the Eagles don't have tons of injuries we have zero chance of winning a superbowl if they are around.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced

This is being level headed. Thinking the game should of ended 29-22. Hitting the rewind button on multiple critical turnovers meanwhile still counting all 22 points that was scored of which 16 of which happened in garbage time and the Eagles pulling their starters.....yeah.

Here's a truly level headed approach. The Chiefs had a vastly inferior roster than the Eagles who were a Juggernaut and nothing they could have done would of changed the fact that they weren't good enough. The only 2 spots the Chiefs were better at were QB and Headcoach but then again the Eagles were good there too. So you get curb stomped in every single other match up.

The offensive line -Eagles vastly superior
The defensive line -Eagles vastly superior
Rbs - Eagles vastly superior
WRs - Eagles vastly superior
TE - The closest yet and probably they have the better tight end at this point in Kelces career as Goedert is likely a top 5 tight end.
Linebacker- Eagles vastly superior
Cornerbacks - Eagles vastly superior
Safteys - Eagles vastly superior

You cant just roll the ball out and say Mahomes is batman and can do it by himself. The offensive line was overrated and now we lost Thuney.

We talk Veach up like he's so good. We have no cap room and average talent outside of Mahomes at best and we still lost one of our best offensive lineman on the team when we were killed I'm the superbowl by their defensive line. We might as well not even show up next year. If the Eagles don't have tons of injuries we have zero chance of winning a superbowl if they are around.

I hope your first post on this forum is also your last post, pussy.

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by MMA_Influenced

This is being level headed...

Why don't you dredge up every thread from the beginning of Chiefs Planet and show where everyone said anything you don't like? Sounds like a good project for you.

[scho63]

I can't believe it's only 2 1/2 months ago. Feels like more than 6 months.

Must be all the off season threads making it feel much longer.

Maybe we need to shut CP down for the offseason like a Maine vacation summer home.

Turn down all the utilities, forward the mail and close all the shutters......