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A Level Headed Review Super Bowl LIX

First and foremost congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles on a fantastic game plan. They knew what our weakness was and they exploited it to the max.

First a couple of bright spots -

The Defense did a helluva job keeping us in the game for as long as they did. The final score should have been 29-22. If not for Pats two ill timed passes one for a pick six, this game is much closer. Hurts and Barkley had good games but it wasn't anything spectacular. Mcduffie had a very difficult assignment against AJ Brown and while he didn't shut him out he definitely didn't allow him to run wild. So major accolades to the Defense. One minor note to mention Bolton has to be using his head out there - the unnecessary roughness call was ticky tacky but don't even put yourself in the position to let the official make a judgement call.

Xavier Worthy really came into his own tonight (8/8 157 yards 2 TDs). Worthy has a very bright future with the Chiefs and will make this offense explosive again, Dhop has done a wonderful job of mentoring this young man. Outside of Dhop (late in the game) Worthy was the only receiver to have an impact on this game.

The Ugly -

This is the second time we have lost a Super Bowl because of our O-Line. Flat out each turnover was a direct result of the offensive line (Specifically the left side) getting their sh*t pushed in. Thuney is an amazing guard and a serviceable left tackle. But when you play the #1 defense serviceable just doesn't cut it. Caliendo is below average at guard and just got destroyed out there by a superior opponent. Offensive line MUST be something that is worked on in the off season. It must have been really telling about DJ Humphries abilities if they didn't even consider making the half time adjustment to move him out there and put Thuney back at guard.

NO RUNNING GAME - we saw so much success with running Kareem Hunt during the playoffs and we completely abandoned it. Part of it is the down and distances we found ourselves in in the first half and the lack of offensive possessions. The second half was playing catch up and no time to run the ball I get it but we should have tried harder to run earlier. But 11 total rushes in this game 4 of them by Pat is unacceptable.

Pat getting cute - a couple of times Pat could have rushed for more yardage and he tried his getting cute tricks to hold the defenders. They were on to it and not biting. He needs to learn sometimes you just take off running and get what you can.

Next year -

Even though he mostly disappeared in the playoffs (possibly due to game plan) I would like to see Dhop back if he has one more year. I would also like to see Brown come back on a one year deal again. Kelce looked like he was tired, I'm not sure he comes back for his final contract year - maybe he does, reinvigorated by this horrible loss, we will see. I think the defense is going to suffer the most with player losses as we won't have the money to resign them all. I believe Reid, Omenihu, and Bolton to name a few and others will be looking for another contract.

Lessons learned - Doesn't matter how many weapons you give Pat if you can't block for him you won't win. Gotta keep the OL in the forefront of our planning. As we have seen twice now Pat running for his life is a recipe for disaster.

Thank you all for reading my thoughts after games this year. I appreciate the feedback and enjoy trying to keep a lid on the crazy that permeates this forum at times.

See you during the draft!

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Old 02-10-2025, 12:26 AM   #31
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Talent was the major difference, then the gameplan, and probably, frankly, some fatigue was also part of it.

The Eagles OL and DL are better than ours, as are their RBs and WRs. We've had an amazing run with this group but it needs freshening up, LT needs addressing and some of the holes need filling.
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Old 02-10-2025, 12:36 AM   #32
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Why did Zach Ertz go for 11-104 vs zone and Kelce went for 4-34. Is the 34yo really that much better than our HOF guy playing for a chance to propose to the love of his life, or is our o-line that incompetent. Pressure% seems to indicate there’s an element beyond the o-line play here. Why did we miss Kelce once short over the middle and abandon that concept? Why did we have 2 rushing attempts in the first half. Why did we have 1 first down in the first 20:00 of play.

All personnel right?
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Old 02-10-2025, 01:01 AM   #33
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I wouldn’t care if not for the threepeat. This is the most heartbreaking loss for me personally

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Talent was the major difference, then the gameplan, and probably, frankly, some fatigue was also part of it.

The Eagles OL and DL are better than ours, as are their RBs and WRs. We've had an amazing run with this group but it needs freshening up, LT needs addressing and some of the holes need filling.
Both lt and rt need addressed and Thuney back inside
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First and foremost congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles on a fantastic game plan. They knew what our weakness was and they exploited it to the max.

First a couple of bright spots -

The Defense did a helluva job keeping us in the game for as long as they did. The final score should have been 29-22. If not for Pats two ill timed passes one for a pick six, this game is much closer. Hurts and Barkley had good games but it wasn't anything spectacular. Mcduffie had a very difficult assignment against AJ Brown and while he didn't shut him out he definitely didn't allow him to run wild. So major accolades to the Defense. One minor note to mention Bolton has to be using his head out there - the unnecessary roughness call was ticky tacky but don't even put yourself in the position to let the official make a judgement call.

Xavier Worthy really came into his own tonight (8/8 157 yards 2 TDs). Worthy has a very bright future with the Chiefs and will make this offense explosive again, Dhop has done a wonderful job of mentoring this young man. Outside of Dhop (late in the game) Worthy was the only receiver to have an impact on this game.

The Ugly -

This is the second time we have lost a Super Bowl because of our O-Line. Flat out each turnover was a direct result of the offensive line (Specifically the left side) getting their sh*t pushed in. Thuney is an amazing guard and a serviceable left tackle. But when you play the #1 defense serviceable just doesn't cut it. Caliendo is below average at guard and just got destroyed out there by a superior opponent. Offensive line MUST be something that is worked on in the off season. It must have been really telling about DJ Humphries abilities if they didn't even consider making the half time adjustment to move him out there and put Thuney back at guard.

NO RUNNING GAME - we saw so much success with running Kareem Hunt during the playoffs and we completely abandoned it. Part of it is the down and distances we found ourselves in in the first half and the lack of offensive possessions. The second half was playing catch up and no time to run the ball I get it but we should have tried harder to run earlier. But 11 total rushes in this game 4 of them by Pat is unacceptable.

Pat getting cute - a couple of times Pat could have rushed for more yardage and he tried his getting cute tricks to hold the defenders. They were on to it and not biting. He needs to learn sometimes you just take off running and get what you can.

Next year -

Even though he mostly disappeared in the playoffs (possibly due to game plan) I would like to see Dhop back if he has one more year. I would also like to see Brown come back on a one year deal again. Kelce looked like he was tired, I'm not sure he comes back for his final contract year - maybe he does, reinvigorated by this horrible loss, we will see. I think the defense is going to suffer the most with player losses as we won't have the money to resign them all. I believe Reid, Omenihu, and Bolton to name a few and others will be looking for another contract.

Lessons learned - Doesn't matter how many weapons you give Pat if you can't block for him you won't win. Gotta keep the OL in the forefront of our planning. As we have seen twice now Pat running for his life is a recipe for disaster.

Thank you all for reading my thoughts after games this year. I appreciate the feedback and enjoy trying to keep a lid on the crazy that permeates this forum at times.

See you during the draft!
Im with you except for DHop. Dude is DONE. On more than just the SB he had big drops this season.
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When Mahomes rolled out with nobody in his face and throw right to a diving linebacker in the middle of the field with no Chief in site....not to mention the depressed body language before the game. The league had to appease all of the cry babies out there that the league is rigged for the Chiefs.
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Why did Zach Ertz go for 11-104 vs zone and Kelce went for 4-34. Is the 34yo really that much better than our HOF guy playing for a chance to propose to the love of his life, or is our o-line that incompetent. Pressure% seems to indicate there’s an element beyond the o-line play here. Why did we miss Kelce once short over the middle and abandon that concept? Why did we have 2 rushing attempts in the first half. Why did we have 1 first down in the first 20:00 of play.

All personnel right?
Very different defensive schemes, to start with.

And different defensive personnel, sure.
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Why did Zach Ertz go for 11-104 vs zone and Kelce went for 4-34. Is the 34yo really that much better than our HOF guy playing for a chance to propose to the love of his life, or is our o-line that incompetent. Pressure% seems to indicate there’s an element beyond the o-line play here. Why did we miss Kelce once short over the middle and abandon that concept? Why did we have 2 rushing attempts in the first half. Why did we have 1 first down in the first 20:00 of play.

All personnel right?
I mean, not all personnel. Obviously any Andy Reid team is going to be pass-heavy, and the gameplan was clearly a bad one. But it was bad because our OL didn't hold up and our DL was as useful as a chocolate fire guard - they have more talent there, especially at OT. As for Kelce, yes he's better than Ertz, and Goedert and everyone else pretty much, even if he has dropped off. But the Eagles actually have LBs that can cover (who they're also paying peanuts), we don't. We have a great CB, they drafted what looks like 2 great rookies in one year.

It goes on. That Eagles roster is a juggernaut, no shame in losing to it. To beat them we are going to have to make a number of personnel changes and get those replacements absolutely right.
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