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Old 02-09-2025, 10:25 PM  
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A Level Headed Review Super Bowl LIX

First and foremost congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles on a fantastic game plan. They knew what our weakness was and they exploited it to the max.

First a couple of bright spots -

The Defense did a helluva job keeping us in the game for as long as they did. The final score should have been 29-22. If not for Pats two ill timed passes one for a pick six, this game is much closer. Hurts and Barkley had good games but it wasn't anything spectacular. Mcduffie had a very difficult assignment against AJ Brown and while he didn't shut him out he definitely didn't allow him to run wild. So major accolades to the Defense. One minor note to mention Bolton has to be using his head out there - the unnecessary roughness call was ticky tacky but don't even put yourself in the position to let the official make a judgement call.

Xavier Worthy really came into his own tonight (8/8 157 yards 2 TDs). Worthy has a very bright future with the Chiefs and will make this offense explosive again, Dhop has done a wonderful job of mentoring this young man. Outside of Dhop (late in the game) Worthy was the only receiver to have an impact on this game.

The Ugly -

This is the second time we have lost a Super Bowl because of our O-Line. Flat out each turnover was a direct result of the offensive line (Specifically the left side) getting their sh*t pushed in. Thuney is an amazing guard and a serviceable left tackle. But when you play the #1 defense serviceable just doesn't cut it. Caliendo is below average at guard and just got destroyed out there by a superior opponent. Offensive line MUST be something that is worked on in the off season. It must have been really telling about DJ Humphries abilities if they didn't even consider making the half time adjustment to move him out there and put Thuney back at guard.

NO RUNNING GAME - we saw so much success with running Kareem Hunt during the playoffs and we completely abandoned it. Part of it is the down and distances we found ourselves in in the first half and the lack of offensive possessions. The second half was playing catch up and no time to run the ball I get it but we should have tried harder to run earlier. But 11 total rushes in this game 4 of them by Pat is unacceptable.

Pat getting cute - a couple of times Pat could have rushed for more yardage and he tried his getting cute tricks to hold the defenders. They were on to it and not biting. He needs to learn sometimes you just take off running and get what you can.

Next year -

Even though he mostly disappeared in the playoffs (possibly due to game plan) I would like to see Dhop back if he has one more year. I would also like to see Brown come back on a one year deal again. Kelce looked like he was tired, I'm not sure he comes back for his final contract year - maybe he does, reinvigorated by this horrible loss, we will see. I think the defense is going to suffer the most with player losses as we won't have the money to resign them all. I believe Reid, Omenihu, and Bolton to name a few and others will be looking for another contract.

Lessons learned - Doesn't matter how many weapons you give Pat if you can't block for him you won't win. Gotta keep the OL in the forefront of our planning. As we have seen twice now Pat running for his life is a recipe for disaster.

Thank you all for reading my thoughts after games this year. I appreciate the feedback and enjoy trying to keep a lid on the crazy that permeates this forum at times.

See you during the draft!

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Old 02-09-2025, 10:50 PM   #16
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You absolutely can blame the o-line. That's absurdity. They didn't blitz one time all game and still had like a 55% pressure rate.
Does the blitz lessen the 2 ints and a fumble? No right. Can't blame the defense on this one. Chiefs d got an INT when it was 7-0 and Mahomes responded with a pick 6. This game was offenses fault and it was Mahomes/Reid at the center of it.
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Old 02-09-2025, 10:51 PM   #17
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The entire offensive line and game plan was an abortion.
I cannot remember a less exciting and innovative looking gameplan from Andy Reid in any recent game, we looked stale AF just awful
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Old 02-09-2025, 11:02 PM   #18
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I cannot remember a less exciting and innovative looking gameplan from Andy Reid in any recent game, we looked stale AF just awful
I guess we will have to wait for all of those special plays the team was saving for special occasions. Patrick only threw two passes more than 7 yards in the first half and both were intercepted. One first down and didn't reach midfield until the 4th quarter. Punting on their first possession of the 2nd half while down 24-0.

Heads should roll, yet they won't. Unacceptable for a team that has so many highly paid professionals to perform this poorly.
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Old 02-09-2025, 11:18 PM   #19
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Yeah the OL was bad but the game plan was worse. We had Thuney on an island and Kelce blocking 1 on 1 with Sweat. Who the **** thought that was a good idea? Also why was Worthy a ghost in the first half?

No, this shit show is on Andy. It's shocking we had two weeks to scheme and this is the final product. It makes no sense.
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Old 02-09-2025, 11:24 PM   #20
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Oh one other thought - on the Pat fumble, that should have been a RTP with both hands to the facemask of Pat as he was being stripped of the ball. Don't think it changes the outcome of the game but that was a bad missed call.
Officiating had a clear message today that nothing was going to get called that favored the chiefs.
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Old 02-09-2025, 11:36 PM   #21
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**** usually the simplest explanation is the correct one. We got OL/LT screwed in TWO freaking Superbowls now, you'd think we'd learn after the first embarassment
I don't understand this take. Veach has tried to get a LT.

He traded for brown Jr. He tried to pay brown Jr.

He's drafted LTs...yes I know it was 2nd and 3rd round but what LT was worth the 32nd pick in back to back drafts? They traded up to get stars...there were no LTs deserving of that pick. Bad teams reach. We'll see if he reaches this draft.

But he's been trying...
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Old 02-09-2025, 11:56 PM   #22
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Hopkins is washed up, Travis Kelce is done. O line is trash. Defense is figured out. Salary cap and other things like aging players prevent threepeats.

Mahomes has a lot of years left

Broncos will be hunting ur ass in the years to come
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Old 02-10-2025, 12:05 AM   #23
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Hopkins is washed up, Travis Kelce is done. O line is trash. Defense is figured out. Salary cap and other things like aging players prevent threepeats.

Mahomes has a lot of years left

Broncos will be hunting ur ass in the years to come
The defense was fine.
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Man it's tough to get blown out in the super bowl or not really being a game or however you want to look at it.

But the Chiefs have had a heck of a run and there's nothing to indicate that they can't retool a little bit and come out better.

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I cannot remember a less exciting and innovative looking gameplan from Andy Reid in any recent game, we looked stale AF just awful
But, but, but....

He was hiding all the good plays for the Superbowl.

Lmao.
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Mahomes sucked. 90% of the blame goes to him. Defense played their best game of the year. Reid coached his worst game of the year. It happens

2 of mahomes/Reid game have come in the super bowl. Can't blame the online. Today was a really embarrassing performance. 2 ints, 1 fumble. This is gonna get talked about as one of the worst all time performances. Even Brady didn't choke this bad
You sure as shit can blame the online, honestly, that's the only possible unit to blame. I don't blame Thuney for not being a great left tackle though, that all goes upstairs.

You sure you were watching the same game?
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I cannot remember a less exciting and innovative looking gameplan from Andy Reid in any recent game, we looked stale AF just awful
I'm sure when he was drawing up plays, he was anticipating guys 3 yards into our backfield .05 seconds after the snap.

Trips right 289 Mahomes zig zag in the pocket until someone is open.
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LOL. Lots of non-levelheaded responses in here.

Fact of the matter is it’s ****ing hard to win in the NFL. It is exponentially more difficult to consistently win in the NFL. It is ****ing unprecedented to 3 peat in the NFL.

This shit doesn’t happen for a reason. It’s ****ing hard.

We have some holes. But no. Heads should not roll, Reid, Spags and Veach should not make wholesale changes to their approach. No team has ever won back to back and made it back to the Super Bowl. Closest thing are the Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bags going to 3 straight and going win loss win.

What they’ve accomplished is nothing short of incredible. If they could have snuck out one more win over the last 60, they would be the greatest run of all time.

Heads should roll. For ****s sake guys.
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To be clear - this was not an offensive Eagles beat down as much as it was a Defensive dressing down. Had the Chiefs been able to move the ball this would have been a much closer game. But you can’t keep giving the ball to the other team and not expect them to score at some point.

The Eagles possessed the ball 14 times (including the pick 6) for 37 minutes The Chiefs possessed the ball 13 times for 23 minutes.

The pick six to make it 17-0 and the following interception just before half that lead to a TD to make it 24-0 was the back breakers. Neither of were the Defense fault.
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Those 4 massive black defensive lineman of Philly prison raped our 3 weak white boys and 2 beta brown brothers who need some strength training.

They rushed just 4 guys all night and were in Mahomes face damn near every play.
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