Chiefs Offseason Changes and/or concerns about tonight’s game. - Page 4

TripleThreat · 02-09-2025, 08:16 PM

I think tonight showed just how oblivious we have all been (rose colored glasses perhaps?) on how bad our offense has been all season, i.e. gifted wins like the dumb ass raiders losing the game without stoping the clock, missed 25 yd field goals… our record did not reflect the truth of this team, we SHOULD have lost to some pretty bad teams….

From here, where do we go?? I think the Oline is clearly an issue, not having rice tonight is also being blatantly exposed as a weakness at WR. Every play “everyone’s covered” along with the Oline just shitting the bed… so, what do we do?

Rexx · 02-09-2025, 09:42 PM

The Oline has talent, just seems like they underperform consistently...I'd look to replace Heck for starters.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-09-2025, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UteChief

I don’t want to toss him aside. I think there is concern he walks away.

That is entirely different from people accusing him or being fat and wanting him to retire.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 02-09-2025, 09:45 PM

If we swap T's with the Eagles the score is flipped. Thuney playing LT got us there. It wasn't enough.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-09-2025, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58

Yep, he's hinted at retirement for two years now. He's a first ballot hof'er, and has his life after football all lined up. I think there's a 75% chance he walks.

If he retires on his own terms so be it. We will adapt. The idea that this is something we should want as if he’s weighing us down is something entirely different. A) don’t disrespect the king. B) there is a world where he can be hella valuable without us relying on him to be the bellcow much longer

redshirt32 · 02-09-2025, 09:48 PM

We might lose Andy in a year or two Kelce who knows

They tried to patch the the team up with old vetrans, it might be min before we get back still a hela run after the last 50 years.

crayzkirk · 02-09-2025, 10:00 PM

I don't understand how teams are able to build dominant lines while drafting fairly high. Yes, the Eagles had a somewhat down year last year however the year before, they were the runner up. Somehow, they were able to rebuild both lines, acquire Barkley and pay everyone.

Someone please explain it to me because this isn't supposed to be possible. The Chiefs have invested a tone of money in free agency and it seems like a poor choice. I like Chris Hones however he's an aging player that is costing a lot of money. Unfortunately, I see the Chiefs having a lot of cap issues moving forward.

**Rausch** · 02-09-2025, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk

I don't understand how teams are able to build dominant lines while drafting fairly high. Yes, the Eagles had a somewhat down year last year however the year before, they were the runner up. Somehow, they were able to rebuild both lines, acquire Barkley and pay everyone.

Someone please explain it to me because this isn't supposed to be possible. The Chiefs have invested a tone of money in free agency and it seems like a poor choice. I like Chris Hones however he's an aging player that is costing a lot of money. Unfortunately, I see the Chiefs having a lot of cap issues moving forward.

Draft well. That's it.

We've done it. So has Philly.

lcarus · 02-09-2025, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RedArrowhead

So Mahomes gets no blame huh? The greatest qbs find ways to overcome but all Mahomes gets is excuses. Mahomes has not played to the level he set for a few years now and that is not debatable. Getting Mahomes right is a term that’s been going around for a few years now.

The other side of that coin is...he won back to back Super Bowls with Juju, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney, and far less than ideal tackles. He did have Rashee Rice last year as a rookie. Aside from that, it's basically been Mahomes and Kelce dragging this offense to Lombardis.

RunKC · 02-09-2025, 10:06 PM

This team had the least explosive RB plays in the entire league. Only 17 explosive plays of 10+ yards.

It makes the QB and OL’s job significantly harder when the team is completely one dimensional bc the defense doesn’t fear our running game.

A dynamic stud RB would 100% help everybody

GordonGekko · 02-09-2025, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexx

The Oline has talent, just seems like they underperform consistently...I'd look to replace Heck for starters.

Yeah OLine coach has to go for sure after this one, worst performance ever by an OLine in the Superbowl?

lcarus · 02-09-2025, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This team had the least explosive RB plays in the entire league. Only 17 explosive plays of 10+ yards.

It makes the QB and OL’s job significantly harder when the team is completely one dimensional bc the defense doesn’t fear our running game.

A dynamic stud RB would 100% help everybody

As a defense if you know they're gonna throw and you know they don't have time for anything downfield (and they know they don't have time for anything downfield), you've gotta be licking your chops. It's just too easy at that point and you have a game that looks like this one.

Valiant · 02-09-2025, 10:15 PM

Patrick needs to learn a touch pass. He did a.close one one to worthy on the td. But.the ints.were just lined passes. Appears they just cut routes.

Also. Oline coach definitely needs.to go.

Dline needs to adjust training. No stunts. Just run into the lineman.

Nagy needs.to go..no adjustments until it's too late.

tk13 · 02-09-2025, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk

I don't understand how teams are able to build dominant lines while drafting fairly high. Yes, the Eagles had a somewhat down year last year however the year before, they were the runner up. Somehow, they were able to rebuild both lines, acquire Barkley and pay everyone.

Someone please explain it to me because this isn't supposed to be possible. The Chiefs have invested a tone of money in free agency and it seems like a poor choice. I like Chris Hones however he's an aging player that is costing a lot of money. Unfortunately, I see the Chiefs having a lot of cap issues moving forward.

Eagles really haven't done anything wild. Their LT is a 7th round pick. LG and C are 2nd rounders. Becton at RG was a 1st rounder for the Jets but Philly signed him for less than $3 million this year. Lane Johnson at RT was drafted by Chip Kelly so that tells you how long they've had him.

TripleThreat · 02-09-2025, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Draft well. That's it.

We've done it. So has Philly.

Yeah, no….

Devontae smith was drafted by the eagles and got a 75/3 year extension in 2024.

AJ brown their #1 they traded for from the titans.

They paid to get Barkley in a year when everyone thought/said rbs mean shit.

Jalen signed a 250 million dollar extension in 2023 through 2028.

Their defense raped us. With a 10 foot pole. Your explanation on paying players doesn’t mean shit.

RedArrowhead · 02-09-2025, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

The other side of that coin is...he won back to back Super Bowls with Juju, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney, and far less than ideal tackles. He did have Rashee Rice last year as a rookie. Aside from that, it's basically been Mahomes and Kelce dragging this offense to Lombardis.

Yes and he gets credit for that. So why does the blame always go elsewhere? Mahomes has given us years we never thought possible but he’s had a few iffy years now.

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TripleThreat Veteran Join Date: Oct 2013 Casino cash: $3938253	Offseason Changes and/or concerns about tonight’s game. I think tonight showed just how oblivious we have all been (rose colored glasses perhaps?) on how bad our offense has been all season, i.e. gifted wins like the dumb ass raiders losing the game without stoping the clock, missed 25 yd field goals… our record did not reflect the truth of this team, we SHOULD have lost to some pretty bad teams…. From here, where do we go?? I think the Oline is clearly an issue, not having rice tonight is also being blatantly exposed as a weakness at WR. Every play “everyone’s covered” along with the Oline just shitting the bed… so, what do we do?
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crayzkirk MVP Join Date: Nov 2016 Casino cash: $1430000	I don't understand how teams are able to build dominant lines while drafting fairly high. Yes, the Eagles had a somewhat down year last year however the year before, they were the runner up. Somehow, they were able to rebuild both lines, acquire Barkley and pay everyone. Someone please explain it to me because this isn't supposed to be possible. The Chiefs have invested a tone of money in free agency and it seems like a poor choice. I like Chris Hones however he's an aging player that is costing a lot of money. Unfortunately, I see the Chiefs having a lot of cap issues moving forward.
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Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4782380	Patrick needs to learn a touch pass. He did a.close one one to worthy on the td. But.the ints.were just lined passes. Appears they just cut routes. Also. Oline coach definitely needs.to go. Dline needs to adjust training. No stunts. Just run into the lineman. Nagy needs.to go..no adjustments until it's too late.
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