**Official** 2024-2025 Mizzou Basketball

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[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Man we have some really bad FT shooters on this team.

Also, while looking at stats I ran across a name that I had almost forgot was on the team. Aiden Shaw. That guy has become demoted to bench warmer. He's gotten 17 min in conference play. I'm betting he transfers out.

Josh Gray is bad. Other than him, there isn't an egregiously bad FT shooter on the squad.

What killed them last night was literally the best FT shooter in the conference missing two front ends when they were struggling on offense.

That game plays out a little differently down the stretch if all you change is Bates converting all 4 of those FTs like you'd expect, instead of them ending up as 0-2.

Shaw's role has been sniped by Mark Mitchell and Trent Pierce. Each of those guys can give you everything Shaw offers on defense (size, rebounding, athleticism, length) while also offering nice offensive contributions (Pierce is a legit inside-outside guy, Mitchell can drive and create).

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Josh Gray is bad. Other than him, there isn't an egregiously bad FT shooter on the squad.

What killed them last night was literally the best FT shooter in the conference missing two front ends when they were struggling on offense.

That game plays out a little differently down the stretch if all you change is Bates converting all 4 of those FTs like you'd expect, instead of them ending up as 0-2.

Shaw's role has been sniped by Mark Mitchell and Trent Pierce. Each of those guys can give you everything Shaw offers on defense (size, rebounding, athleticism, length) while also offering nice offensive contributions (Pierce is a legit inside-outside guy, Mitchell can drive and create).

What was funny (in a sad way) was Gray went 3-4 during the same stretch that Bates went 0-2. So maybe it all evened out in the end?

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Man we have some really bad FT shooters on this team.

Also, while looking at stats I ran across a name that I had almost forgot was on the team. Aiden Shaw. That guy has become demoted to bench warmer. He's gotten 17 min in conference play. I'm betting he transfers out.

There are many 4 star recruits that pull a Glen Dandrige at Mizzou, its baffling.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia

There are many 4 star recruits that pull a Glen Dandrige at Mizzou, its baffling.

It's not just Mizzou.

There are 100+ 4* recruits every year. There AIN'T that many great players that come into the NCAA every season.

Maybe a quarter of those guys actually pan out anywhere near their prospect standing. I wouldn't worry a ton about it -- it's pretty rare that any of them leave Mizzou and amount to much either.

Just the nature of the beast. These kids are 17/18 years old when they get these ranks. We really don't know dick about how they'll develop when they're stuck in a grownups world and told its time to sink or swim.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's not just Mizzou.

There are 100+ 4* recruits every year. There AIN'T that many great players that come into the NCAA every season.

Maybe a quarter of those guys actually pan out anywhere near their prospect standing. I wouldn't worry a ton about it -- it's pretty rare that any of them leave Mizzou and amount to much either.

Just the nature of the beast. These kids are 17/18 years old when they get these ranks. We really don't know dick about how they'll develop when they're stuck in a grownups world and told its time to sink or swim.

Yeah, I'm not remotely worried about losing Shaw. I honest to God forget he was on the team lol. He just hasn't played at all with the big boys.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

What was funny (in a sad way) was Gray went 3-4 during the same stretch that Bates went 0-2. So maybe it all evened out in the end?

I mean, you'd expect him to go 2-4 there (it also helps that his setup is so unique he's leading the world in drawn lane violations - he gets a do-over on about 1/4 of his attempts, it seems like).

So you're +1 over expectation there, but you'd expect Bates to make 4/4. So -4. Still a net loss.