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Old 02-03-2025, 10:02 AM  
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Myles Garrett wants out of Cleveland
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Old Yesterday, 02:10 PM   #136
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Keep in mind, trading a first round pick requires Clark's approval. Even if people here don't, I'm sure he remembers what happened with Frank Clark.

There's just no way the Chiefs are in on this. Somebody will outbid them.
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Old Yesterday, 02:27 PM   #137
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I was in the pay Tyreek whatever he wants camp before we traded him. Since then we’re about to win three straight Superbowls.

I would never give up draft picks AND big money to another player ever again.
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Old Yesterday, 02:46 PM   #138
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I was in the pay Tyreek whatever he wants camp before we traded him. Since then we’re about to win three straight Superbowls.

I would never give up draft picks AND big money to another player ever again.
You simply don't need to do it, and we've proven it. Hate to admit it, but the Patriot model really was the best way for us to move forward, and the Hill trade sort of opened a lot of eyes to that.

When you have Hall of Famers at HC, QB and DC, you are playing by a completely different set of rules than the rest of the league.
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Old Yesterday, 02:47 PM   #139
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I want out of Cleveland and I've never even been there.
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You simply don't need to do it, and we've proven it. Hate to admit it, but the Patriot model really was the best way for us to move forward, and the Hill trade sort of opened a lot of eyes to that.

When you have Hall of Famers at HC, QB and DC, you are playing by a completely different set of rules than the rest of the league.
You've just gotta draft and develop your stars. Then you've got the coaching to be a force multiplier and make them better.

Would I like an elite prospect at LT or DE? Sure, but those don't get drafted at 31.

Thems the breaks we're living by.
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Veach is a shrewd negotiatior. He stole Dhop from the Titans and then we hid Dhop on gamedays enough to relinquish the lowest possible compensation.
Chiefs are giving up a 4th to the tits if they win the SB.
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Old Yesterday, 03:26 PM   #142
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People trying to throw Karlaftis in a trade for Myles Garrett are crazy AF. In 3 years, when Karlaftis is 26 and Garrett is 33 years old, Karlaftis is going to be the far superior player. Nevermind the dollar signs behind Myles Garrett and the additional draft pick/s it would take.
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Old Yesterday, 04:00 PM   #143
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Cleveland will trade to whomever surrenders the highest amount of capital.

All of this "Browns don't want to compete against Garret" is ridiculous.

The Brown aren't competing with anyone. They're ****ed. The Watson trade has completely obliterated the team's foreseeable future.

They should be in full fire sale mode right now, and anyone foolish enough to mortgage their future on a 30 year old DE with bad wheels, the Browns shouldn't care who they are or where they play, they should simply be asking where to sign and helping Garrett pack his shit.

Veach is a shrewd negotiatior. He stole Dhop from the Titans and then we hid Dhop on gamedays enough to relinquish the lowest possible compensation.

The only way I could see Veach packaging up multiple picks and surrendering potential future roster lifeblood would be on a sure fire, can't miss, generational talent at LT to anchor the line for the rest of Mahomes career.

Not an aging, crippled up ring chasing DE.
Of course a guy who can force his way out of one team, can also dictate who he will not play for or sign with. Cleveland's hands are a little tied if they cave to his demands.
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Chiefs are giving up a 4th to the tits if they win the SB.
I don't believe that's accurate.

The condition upgraded to a 4th if Hopkins played 60% of the snaps AND the Chiefs appeared in the SB. Winning it didn't even matter, but 60% of the snaps was a necessary precondition that he didn't meet.
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Old Yesterday, 04:26 PM   #146
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I don't believe that's accurate.

The condition upgraded to a 4th if Hopkins played 60% of the snaps AND the Chiefs appeared in the SB. Winning it didn't even matter, but 60% of the snaps was a necessary precondition that he didn't meet.
It isn't accurate - you're right.

He had to play 60% of the snaps AND make it to the Super Bowl.

He didn't do the former so the latter no longer matters.

The Titans will get a 5th rounder.
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