RB has an argument for being our biggest team need - Page 4

RunKC · 01-20-2025, 01:22 PM

Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT

Titty Meat · 01-25-2025, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

The dude has never had a fumble in his career so I'm not sure where the fumble issues statement comes from. Hunt ran a 4.60. Steele ran 4.77 for comparison. Hunt and Skattebo are about identical in size at 5'11" 215. Skattebo runs with great balance, like Hunt.

Now if he goes to the combine and runs around a 4.8, no I wouldn't touch him. But if he runs a 4.65 or lower, yeah I'd take that kid in the middle rounds easily.

I mean, look at 1k rushers this year and you'll a few in that 4.6-4.65 range... Kyren Williams and Josh Jacobs come to mind

He's never fumbled?

https://x.com/BDenny29/status/184767...LLZxobnGQ&s=19

Yeah I'd take a flyer on him in the middle rounds as well

kccrow · 01-26-2025, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

He's never fumbled?

https://x.com/BDenny29/status/184767...LLZxobnGQ&s=19

Yeah I'd take a flyer on him in the middle rounds as well

Alot of differing data on him fumbling or not...

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...1/cam-skattebo

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/players/321989/

https://www.statmuse.com/cfb/player/...5/career-stats

https://fantasydata.com/ncaa-footbal...ntasy/50060622

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-...skattebo/stats

So it appears that major outlets have not given him any but the others do, which I was unaware of. Sports-Reference doesn't give fumble data on college players.

Anyhow, if he has 5 fumbles over the past two seasons with 1 lost, I'd hardly call it a major issue.

OKchiefs · 01-26-2025, 03:56 PM

Not sure he’d ever fully utilize them correctly, but could you imagine this offense with a Saquon Barkley at RB? Not sure this team will be able to address LT anytime soon and who knows when Pat will get over his yips, but give this team a truly dominant rushing attack and it could mostly mask the weaknesses in the passing game.

Chargem · 01-27-2025, 08:13 AM

The more I reflect on this, the more I think RB is no where near our biggest need. OL, DL, LB, CB, WR all bigger needs for sure, as it stands.

RB is an area where it would be relatively easy to get better, sure. But if the O line regresses once Trey walks, that could offset any benefit of a better back.

Titty Meat · 01-27-2025, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chargem

The more I reflect on this, the more I think RB is no where near our biggest need. OL, DL, LB, CB, WR all bigger needs for sure, as it stands.

RB is an area where it would be relatively easy to get better, sure. But if the O line regresses once Trey walks, that could offset any benefit of a better back.

It's not

O.city · 01-28-2025, 04:12 PM

They need a CB/DE/DT before they think about a RB, but I'm a full on BPA guy now. Just keep taking good player.

RunKC · 01-30-2025, 01:23 PM

Pick 66 please

Kansas RB Devin Neal continues to impress on Day 3 of the #SeniorBowl

pic.twitter.com/loFN7zLV5D
— Thor Nystrom (@thorku) January 30, 2025

Couch-Potato · 01-30-2025, 05:39 PM

Will be the most interesting pick this year I think.

**Buehler445** · 01-30-2025, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Pick 66 please

Kansas RB Devin Neal continues to impress on Day 3 of the #SeniorBowl

pic.twitter.com/loFN7zLV5D
— Thor Nystrom (@thorku) January 30, 2025

Hoof. That's pretty nasty.

I'm a super douche homer for Neal. I'm trying to tamp it down, but mother****er I'd watch him on Satudays and the Chiefs on Sundays, and long for him to be in red.

I'll admit, he needs to test well and he has a fair bit of miles on his tread, but **** it. Draft the kid.

smithandrew051 · 01-30-2025, 06:04 PM

Trade every draft pick to move up for Devin Neal if needed.

Okay maybe don’t do that.

If he’s there in the third though. Maybe a slight reach, but worth it.

htismaqe · 01-31-2025, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Hoof. That's pretty nasty.

I'm a super douche homer for Neal. I'm trying to tamp it down, but mother****er I'd watch him on Satudays and the Chiefs on Sundays, and long for him to be in red.

I'll admit, he needs to test well and he has a fair bit of miles on his tread, but **** it. Draft the kid.

You can homer for Neal. I will homer for Johnson. Maybe one of us will get what we want.

kccrow · Yesterday, 03:53 PM

Since we're all homering, I'll homer for Henderson then.

Couch-Potato · Today, 09:32 AM

The RB class is stacked.

My question is which of these guys is going to go in the 7th or UDFA and still make an impact on an NFL team?

kccrow · Today, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

The RB class is stacked.

My question is which of these guys is going to go in the 7th or UDFA and still make an impact on an NFL team?

Still kind of waiting on consensus ranking to come into play but a few I've seen with low grades that might be some quality are these:

Jacory Croskey-Merritt, Arizona (look @ Alabama State and New Mexico + E/W Shrine)
Corey Kiner, Cincinnati
Phil Mafah, Clemson
Micah Bernard, Utah
Ja'Quinden Jackson, Arkansas
Montrell Johnson, Florida
Mario Anderson, Memphis
Peny Boone, UCF (look @ his last year at Toledo)
LeQuint Allen Jr., Syracuse

kccrow · Today, 11:42 AM

If you're kind of looking for "the guy" that we think could be a steal and not the laundry list I gave... I'm on the Phil Mafah train. He's got good vision, good size, and is pretty solid in all aspects. I just don't like his long speed but when we're talking about a guy in the 7th or UDFA then there is a reason he isn't going in the 3rd or 4th so they are missing something.

01-20-2025, 01:22 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-530389	RB has an argument for being our biggest team need Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad. The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either. I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage. I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable. Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough. We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to: 2023: 7 2022: 12 2021: 5 Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously. Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT
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Chargem Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $1990400	The more I reflect on this, the more I think RB is no where near our biggest need. OL, DL, LB, CB, WR all bigger needs for sure, as it stands. RB is an area where it would be relatively easy to get better, sure. But if the O line regresses once Trey walks, that could offset any benefit of a better back.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-530389	Pick 66 please Kansas RB Devin Neal continues to impress on Day 3 of the #SeniorBowl pic.twitter.com/loFN7zLV5D — Thor Nystrom (@thorku) January 30, 2025 __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-190000	If you're kind of looking for "the guy" that we think could be a steal and not the laundry list I gave... I'm on the Phil Mafah train. He's got good vision, good size, and is pretty solid in all aspects. I just don't like his long speed but when we're talking about a guy in the 7th or UDFA then there is a reason he isn't going in the 3rd or 4th so they are missing something.
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