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Let's Talk About the Eagles (Super Bowl 59 Discussion)
We're headed back to the Ship and will try to be the first team to 3-peat in Super Bowl history!!! Chiefs open up as 1.5 favorites over the Eagles.

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Old Today, 02:07 PM   #781
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Why do people keep doing this "if you take away..." bit with Barkley's rushing totals? Explosive plays are what Barkley does. You can't just wave the hands and take that away and pretend it doesn't exist.


It's what he does, till he doesn't... it's not a given. It's a discussion board, for Christ Sake.
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Barkley can run for about whatever he wants, if the Eagles front four can't consistently get to Mahomes, it won't matter.
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I agree about the defense but our offense was awesome in 2022. Mahomes won the MVP that year and they were one of the highest ranked offenses in the league. Very efficient despite the WRs you mention.
The OTs were shit that year too.
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The Eagles don't have Bosa and Greenlaw...
DPOY finalist Zach Baun. Jalen Carter.
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Barkley can run for about whatever he wants, if the Eagles front four can't consistently get to Mahomes, it won't matter.
Mahomes is gonna get his.

The Eagles running the ball will just slow down their offense and increase chances for our defense to make a game-changing play.

This is why I think Spags is almost content to LET teams go on long drives when we have a 7-point lead or more. It increases the chance of a mistake.
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DPOY finalist Zach Baun. Jalen Carter.
And it won't matter. None of that will be why whoever wins the game wins the game.

If KC doesn't commit a bunch of unforced errors, fumbles, bizarre interceptions or whatever, they'll win.

Just like every single game they've played for years now.

The opponent almost doesn't matter. Good team, bad team, KC will play just good enough to win.

Or, if they're just unfocused and do a bunch of keystone cops style dumb shit, they might lose. But it won't be any matchup. There's no PLAN that will beat KC. There's no magic bullet. You have to play a near perfect game, and capitalize on any KC mistake to have a chance. And even THEN...Mahomes will do Mahomes things if you give him even 13 seconds. And you'll wonder how the hell that just happened, and you'll blame the refs, or the coaches, or scapegoat a specific player.

The last time they did the keystone cops routine in a post-season game was the AFCCG against The Bengals...so it's been awhile. You do understand that KC hasn't lost a post-season game since January 2022, right? It COULD happen. But I doubt it.

The Eagles are a very good team, and a worthy opponent. So was Buffalo. So was San Fran last February. And so on, and so on, and so on.
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They play in the NFC, did they play a first place schedule? Wash last week was missing their best o lineman , our last 3 Super Bowl wins were against teams we were not supposed to compete with . Expect a lot of experts and people to bet against us using mostly feelings/box scores.
Strength of schedule. Eagles had fifth lowest opponent winning percentage. Chiefs had 10th lowest opponent winning percentage. So the Chiefs did play a tougher schedule… but, at 10th versus fifth, it seems like you are over stating that aspect.

Statistically, According to this site, the Eagles O was better than the Chiefs O, And the Eagles D was also better than the Chiefs D

Of course, this means absolutely nothing… Just found it interesting as it seems to fly in the face of a lot of the analysis… Not to mention the pointspread.

teamrankings.com/nfl/matchup/chiefs-eagles-super-bowl-2024/stats
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The OTs were shit that year too.
Didn’t the Chiefs have Orlando Brown starting?
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And it won't matter. None of that will be why whoever wins the game wins the game.

If KC doesn't commit a bunch of unforced errors, fumbles, bizarre interceptions or whatever, they'll win.

Just like every single game they've played for years now.

The opponent almost doesn't matter. Good team, bad team, KC will play just good enough to win.

Or, if they're just unfocused and do a bunch of keystone cops style dumb shit, they might lose. But it won't be any matchup. There's no PLAN that will beat KC. There's no magic bullet. You have to play a near perfect game, and capitalize on any KC mistake to have a chance. And even THEN...Mahomes will do Mahomes things if you give him even 13 seconds. And you'll wonder how the hell that just happened, and you'll blame the refs, or the coaches, or scapegoat a specific player.

The last time they did the keystone cops routine in a post-season game was the AFCCG against The Bengals...so it's been awhile. You do understand that KC hasn't lost a post-season game since January 2022, right? It COULD happen. But I doubt it.

The Eagles are a very good team, and a worthy opponent. So was Buffalo. So was San Fran last February. And so on, and so on, and so on.
Hey… Maybe… it’s going to be a very interesting game.
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Didn’t the Chiefs have Orlando Brown starting?
Yes, and he and the RT Andrew Wylie both were #1 and #2 in pressures allowed that year.
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Had it been noted here yet that apparently Jalen Carter has been lining up over the RG almost exclusively?

Watching games it felt that way, guess it's real. So it would be a curveball for them to put him over Caliendo. Not that other guys aren't just as capable of beating him, but thought that was noteworthy since we've been worried about that matchup most.
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I agree about the defense but our offense was awesome in 2022. Mahomes won the MVP that year and they were one of the highest ranked offenses in the league. Very efficient despite the WRs you mention.
This offense has been efficient since benching Morris and adding Brown.

If you think an offense with iffy tackles, a mediocre RB room and bad WRs is better than what they have now, I'm assuming you think Bienemy is the difference?
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