The Bills take the AFC this seasom

[JustDíqLix]

Are you ready for some football!?

I know I am!

With that, I am here to make a proclamation!

The mighty Bills from Buffalo will take the AFC this year.

For two decades I watched people say the Patriots window was closed, that their time was dwindling, that it was all over… seemingly every time those predictions happened, the Patriots went and won another Super Bowl.

A lot of doom talk simply because we lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Let us not forget that the Bills watched their brother DIE on the field just a few weeks prior. Their heart was simply not in it. If it had been, the Bills would have captured the AFC last year.

The Bills have won 2 of their last 3 in Arrowhead and they’re ready to make it 3 of the last 4.

Let’s go mighty Buffalo Bills! 🦬 🦬 🦬

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by O.city

He may ride off and do something else but....man I dunno. The dude just loves football.

I'd ride it til the wheels fall off.

Still has those Jerry Rice records to break too.

[BlackOp]

Let him do a Gronk....just show up with 3 game left in the season for the next two years.

As the Chiefs just showed Sunday...they really are just coasting through the regular season anyway.

I mean all those quick hitters could have been used when the LT was getting Mahomes killed...anyone care to give an explanation?

Point spread?...Media narrative creation? Keep hope alive for seeding?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I don’t think Kelce matter much. Anyone we sign will have a low first yr cap hit anyway with the money going to to 2026 and beyond.

I think Kelce would do us a solid and restructure anyway if we asked him.

The bulk of his money next season is a roster bonus. It's the easiest thing in the world to bump those down the road with an extension or void years or whatever.

Yeah, if we need the money, it won't be hard to get. I just worry a bit about pushing money down the road when we know that PM's getting more expensive and GK and Karlaftis need to be addressed.

Our cap is REALLY lean right now. There's just very very little bad money on it. And we're still tight against it every season. And with the 2022 draft class starting to come into their $$$ seasons, that's gonna just get harder for us.

My preference really would be that a guy gets paid what he earns via production rather than we spread it.

But it's Kelce. His value is so much beyond what he does during the 18 weeks of the regular season. Just being the guy that walks alongside Mahomes as they come out of the tunnel is the kind of shit that's worth its weight in gold.

I really do wonder how life looks for PM when he doesn't have such a respected and valuable wingman anymore. Not from a productivity standpoint, but just from a team dynamics approach.

Leadership wise, that's gonna be a heck of a change.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The bulk of his money next season is a roster bonus. It's the easiest thing in the world to bump those down the road with an extension or void years or whatever.

Yeah, if we need the money, it won't be hard to get. I just worry a bit about pushing money down the road when we know that PM's getting more expensive and GK and Karlaftis need to be addressed.

Our cap is REALLY lean right now. There's just very very little bad money on it. And we're still tight against it every season. And with the 2022 draft class starting to come into their $$$ seasons, that's gonna just get harder for us.

My preference really would be that a guy gets paid what he earns via production rather than we spread it.

But it's Kelce. His value is so much beyond what he does during the 18 weeks of the regular season. Just being the guy that walks alongside Mahomes as they come out of the tunnel is the kind of shit that's worth its weight in gold.

I really do wonder how life looks for PM when he doesn't have such a respected and valuable wingman anymore. Not from a productivity standpoint, but just from a team dynamics approach.

Leadership wise, that's gonna be a heck of a change.

It really makes you wonder htf the Eagles afford all their guys, at least it does me.

[O.city]

Philly's defense is super cheap. Lotta high end talent on draft deals.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

Philly's defense is super cheap. Lotta high end talent on draft deals.

They have a lot of big money contracts too...they have a bunch of guys with basically dead years added to decrease money because if you look at some of their guys AAV's and practical guarantees and then compare it to their cap it doesn't add up...

They're gonna have a bunch of dead money on their cap in a few years.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mecca

They have a lot of big money contracts too...they have a bunch of guys with basically dead years added to decrease money because if you look at some of their guys AAV's and practical guarantees and then compare it to their cap it doesn't add up...

They're gonna have a bunch of dead money on their cap in a few years.

Exactly what I was going to say. They're kicking the can down the road. You don't center your offense around a RB, as good as he is, if you're not in win now mode. Barkley could break at any moment, especially with his history.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Exactly what I was going to say. They're kicking the can down the road. You don't center your offense around a RB, as good as he is, if you're not in win now mode. Barkley could break at any moment, especially with his history.

The amount of AAV and practical guarantees they have locked into just Hurts, Brown, DeVonta, Dickerson, Johnson and Mailata is crazy high...shit even Slay and Goedert have large deals.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Philly's defense is super cheap. Lotta high end talent on draft deals.

It’s Howie Roseman and Brett Veach…then everybody else. I get some of the hate on Howie but if we didn’t have Veach I would be want him.

Hired Fangio
Hired Moore-about to go to Saints
Zack Baun and Mekhi Becton
Saquon
Drafting Quinyon and DeJean

This team was a mess last year. They fell apart and everyone thought they might not even be a playoff team the way they were headed.

Howie fixed it all in one offseason. He’s the real deal

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It’s Howie Roseman and Brett Veach…then everybody else. I get some of the hate on Howie but if we didn’t have Veach I would be want him.

Hired Fangio
Hired Moore-about to go to Saints
Zack Baun and Mekhi Becton
Saquon
Drafting Quinyon and DeJean

This team was a mess last year. They fell apart and everyone thought they might not even be a playoff team the way they were headed.

Howie fixed it all in one offseason. He’s the real deal

They fell apart because their culture was ****ed and to some degree it still is. Their HC is a buffoon and the idea that as an NFL coach you are gonna win games by "out talenting your opponent" is shit that loses games in college these days.

When your WR is reading a book on the sideline you can't tell me everything is fine there.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It really makes you wonder htf the Eagles afford all their guys, at least it does me.

They use void years much much MUCH more aggressively than we do.

Plusses and minuses either way.

Ultimately I think if you have a team with talented players and a means to keep them, you do it. Especially to keep their younger guys as they've largely done.

Worry about the shit sandwich you'll have to eat when it comes due. But when your window is wide open, attack it. Theirs is.

They'll worry about 2028 in 2028.

We may need to consider doing the same if we want to bring back Bolton while getting McDuffie and Karlaftis done this off-season.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The amount of AAV and practical guarantees they have locked into just Hurts, Brown, DeVonta, Dickerson, Johnson and Mailata is crazy high...shit even Slay and Goedert have large deals.

I assume they believe the window with Hurts as QB will be shut before long.

Probably going for it now and then planning to rebuild after.

They’re probably right if that’s the case.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I assume they believe the window with Hurts as QB will be shut before long.

Probably going for it now and then planning to rebuild after.

They’re probably right if that’s the case.

I believe Hurts deal expires in 28 or 29 if he continues to be the guy he is now, I wouldn't be shocked if they moved on.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I assume they believe the window with Hurts as QB will be shut before long.

Probably going for it now and then planning to rebuild after.

They’re probably right if that’s the case.

Yeah - Hurts is probably the most obvious short-timer of the 'premier' QBs in the game right now.

He's just never developed much as a passer, he already looks less explosive than he looked 2 seasons ago, the bumps and bruises are mounting. I just don't see him being relevant into his 30s absent some real progression that we haven't seen in his 4 years as a starter.

He'll probably age about like Alex Smith did. And we saw how damn difficult it is to win post-season games with Smith as your starting QB. Worse still, Smith's deal was typically a middle class QB's deal -- Hurts isn't. He's going to be getting paid like a top quarterback fairly quickly.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah - Hurts is probably the most obvious short-timer of the 'premier' QBs in the game right now.

He's just never developed much as a passer, he already looks less explosive than he looked 2 seasons ago, the bumps and bruises are mounting. I just don't see him being relevant into his 30s absent some real progression that we haven't seen in his 4 years as a starter.

He'll probably age about like Alex Smith did. And we saw how damn difficult it is to win post-season games with Smith as your starting QB. Worse still, Smith's deal was typically a middle class QB's deal -- Hurts isn't. He's going to be getting paid like a top quarterback fairly quickly.

If the Eagles are lucky some team like Minnesota will give up too much to trade for and extend him in the last year of that deal.

“How many chances do you get to trade for a 2 time Super Bowl starting QB?”