RB has an argument for being our biggest team need - Page 3

RunKC · 01-20-2025, 01:22 PM

Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT

Titty Meat · 01-22-2025, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

A RB has to have an exceptional set of traits for me to consider them in the 1st or 2nd round. Gibbs was one of those guys. Henderson is one of those guys this year for me but I don't have it in me to pound the table for a guy in round 1 again. If Henderson is there at pick 2 or pick 3A, then yeah. Honestly, Henderson is the exact type of back I could see Jerry Jones going all in on in round 1 even if he might not appear to have round 1 grades. The kid is going to probably run a 4.38 and he can do it all.

This is a loaded RB class. The Senior Bowl is going to feature some interesting cats. I want to see Bhayshul Tuten (Virginia Tech) who I like a bunch and Marcus Yarns (Delaware) who has the speed for days. The rest are a great set with Cam Skattebo (Arizona State), Jarquez Hunter (Auburn), R.J. Harvey (UCF), Trevor Etienne (Georgia), Devin Neal (Kansas), Damien Martinez (Miami), Donovan Edwards (Michigan), Kalel Mullings (Michigan), Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma State), Brashard Smith (SMU), and Woody Marks (USC) and none of these aren't even the top dogs in the class.

Overall, I don't think we have to hunt for an RB in this one. There will be options at our 3rd and 4th round picks.

Now here's a good write up. Ollie Gordon seems forgotten but he very well could be the best back in this draft. Played with alot of injuries this year IIRC. Martinez is another guy who's been productive everywhere hes been bigger back.

Couch-Potato · 01-23-2025, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Kaleb Johnson.

I think he could be the guy, Johnson or Henderson would be my early RB targets if we’re taking one high.

kccrow · 01-23-2025, 04:49 PM

It's crazy to think that there might be as many as 15 RBs in this class that would normally get day 2 grades.

CatfishBob2 · 01-23-2025, 06:48 PM

We deserve and should have an RB out of the top ten on that list. I don't think any team in the league has invested less than us, and maybe Dallas, at the position and it SHOWS

Couch-Potato · 01-23-2025, 08:37 PM

What do you guys think of Skattebo? Is he this year’s Carson Steele? He’s got more lateral agility and some pass-catching chops so I don’t mean it literally, but what I mean is he just a college star that won’t be as impactful in the pros or do you truly believe in him to the point you’d be willing to select him?

Titty Meat · 01-23-2025, 09:34 PM

Hell of a college player somewhere between Toby Gehart & Mike Alstott

kccrow · 01-23-2025, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

What do you guys think of Skattebo? Is he this year’s Carson Steele? He’s got more lateral agility and some pass-catching chops so I don’t mean it literally, but what I mean is he just a college star that won’t be as impactful in the pros or do you truly believe in him to the point you’d be willing to select him?

Oh I'd select him. he's got great contact balance and he's far quicker, far more agile, and faster than Steele. He actually reminds me of Kareem Hunt but maybe an even better receiving back.

htismaqe · 01-24-2025, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Oh I'd select him. he's got great contact balance and he's far quicker, far more agile, and faster than Steele. He actually reminds me of Kareem Hunt but maybe an even better receiving back.

This. He's a bit of a poor man's CMC.

Urc Burry · 01-24-2025, 09:33 AM

Judkins reminds me of a juiced up Kareem.. am I off on that?

I personally would love a home run hitter.. I miss the Jamaal Charles days dearly

Boxer_Chief · 01-25-2025, 11:10 AM

Idk with skatteboo I see a lot of Cody schrader and he never played this year. Led the sec in rushing and was a big bruising white tailback. Skatteboo might be slightly better because of his receiving but he worries me.

Titty Meat · 01-25-2025, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Oh I'd select him. he's got great contact balance and he's far quicker, far more agile, and faster than Steele. He actually reminds me of Kareem Hunt but maybe an even better receiving back.

He runs in the 4.6 range has issued with fumble and doesn't pass protect well im not getting your kareem hunt comparison

Hoover · 01-25-2025, 01:37 PM

Its not our biggest need, but it is an easy opportunity to improve the offense overnight, and the best thing is that there are 5 or 6 guys that would great great fits. There is no need to over draft because you want/need one.

Couch-Potato · 01-25-2025, 02:03 PM

Dylan Sampson’s the back that surprised me with some Kareem to his game, had heard he was a speed back but plays with balance too.

Hoover · 01-25-2025, 02:08 PM

And if you can’t grab Henderson or Johnson or it’s just too early to go RB he’s a great call back option.

kccrow · 01-25-2025, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

He runs in the 4.6 range has issued with fumble and doesn't pass protect well im not getting your kareem hunt comparison

The dude has never had a fumble in his career so I'm not sure where the fumble issues statement comes from. Hunt ran a 4.60. Steele ran 4.77 for comparison. Hunt and Skattebo are about identical in size at 5'11" 215. Skattebo runs with great balance, like Hunt.

Now if he goes to the combine and runs around a 4.8, no I wouldn't touch him. But if he runs a 4.65 or lower, yeah I'd take that kid in the middle rounds easily.

I mean, look at 1k rushers this year and you'll a few in that 4.6-4.65 range... Kyren Williams and Josh Jacobs come to mind

01-20-2025, 01:22 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1360389	RB has an argument for being our biggest team need Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad. The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either. I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage. I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable. Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough. We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to: 2023: 7 2022: 12 2021: 5 Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously. Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT
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Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $323065	What do you guys think of Skattebo? Is he this year’s Carson Steele? He’s got more lateral agility and some pass-catching chops so I don’t mean it literally, but what I mean is he just a college star that won’t be as impactful in the pros or do you truly believe in him to the point you’d be willing to select him?
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-1891821	Its not our biggest need, but it is an easy opportunity to improve the offense overnight, and the best thing is that there are 5 or 6 guys that would great great fits. There is no need to over draft because you want/need one.
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Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $323065	Dylan Sampson’s the back that surprised me with some Kareem to his game, had heard he was a speed back but plays with balance too.
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