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Old 01-20-2025, 01:22 PM  
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RB has an argument for being our biggest team need

Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT
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Old 01-20-2025, 10:52 PM   #16
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Old 01-21-2025, 02:02 PM   #17
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A RB has to have an exceptional set of traits for me to consider them in the 1st or 2nd round. Gibbs was one of those guys. Henderson is one of those guys this year for me but I don't have it in me to pound the table for a guy in round 1 again. If Henderson is there at pick 2 or pick 3A, then yeah. Honestly, Henderson is the exact type of back I could see Jerry Jones going all in on in round 1 even if he might not appear to have round 1 grades. The kid is going to probably run a 4.38 and he can do it all.

This is a loaded RB class. The Senior Bowl is going to feature some interesting cats. I want to see Bhayshul Tuten (Virginia Tech) who I like a bunch and Marcus Yarns (Delaware) who has the speed for days. The rest are a great set with Cam Skattebo (Arizona State), Jarquez Hunter (Auburn), R.J. Harvey (UCF), Trevor Etienne (Georgia), Devin Neal (Kansas), Damien Martinez (Miami), Donovan Edwards (Michigan), Kalel Mullings (Michigan), Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma State), Brashard Smith (SMU), and Woody Marks (USC) and none of these aren't even the top dogs in the class.

Overall, I don't think we have to hunt for an RB in this one. There will be options at our 3rd and 4th round picks.
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A RB has to have an exceptional set of traits for me to consider them in the 1st or 2nd round. Gibbs was one of those guys. Henderson is one of those guys this year for me but I don't have it in me to pound the table for a guy in round 1 again. If Henderson is there at pick 2 or pick 3A, then yeah. Honestly, Henderson is the exact type of back I could see Jerry Jones going all in on in round 1 even if he might not appear to have round 1 grades. The kid is going to probably run a 4.38 and he can do it all.

This is a loaded RB class. The Senior Bowl is going to feature some interesting cats. I want to see Bhayshul Tuten (Virginia Tech) who I like a bunch and Marcus Yarns (Delaware) who has the speed for days. The rest are a great set with Cam Skattebo (Arizona State), Jarquez Hunter (Auburn), R.J. Harvey (UCF), Trevor Etienne (Georgia), Devin Neal (Kansas), Damien Martinez (Miami), Donovan Edwards (Michigan), Kalel Mullings (Michigan), Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma State), Brashard Smith (SMU), and Woody Marks (USC) and none of these aren't even the top dogs in the class.

Overall, I don't think we have to hunt for an RB in this one. There will be options at our 3rd and 4th round picks.
I agree and don’t want to take one I. The first or second. We don’t need too. What you can’t to is expect that a 7th rounder (Pop) and an UFA (Steel) is all you need to pair with CEH who has had major availability issues.
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A RB has to have an exceptional set of traits for me to consider them in the 1st or 2nd round. Gibbs was one of those guys. Henderson is one of those guys this year for me but I don't have it in me to pound the table for a guy in round 1 again. If Henderson is there at pick 2 or pick 3A, then yeah. Honestly, Henderson is the exact type of back I could see Jerry Jones going all in on in round 1 even if he might not appear to have round 1 grades. The kid is going to probably run a 4.38 and he can do it all.

This is a loaded RB class. The Senior Bowl is going to feature some interesting cats. I want to see Bhayshul Tuten (Virginia Tech) who I like a bunch and Marcus Yarns (Delaware) who has the speed for days. The rest are a great set with Cam Skattebo (Arizona State), Jarquez Hunter (Auburn), R.J. Harvey (UCF), Trevor Etienne (Georgia), Devin Neal (Kansas), Damien Martinez (Miami), Donovan Edwards (Michigan), Kalel Mullings (Michigan), Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma State), Brashard Smith (SMU), and Woody Marks (USC) and none of these aren't even the top dogs in the class.

Overall, I don't think we have to hunt for an RB in this one. There will be options at our 3rd and 4th round picks.
Also agree with this. There may well be a drop off after Henderson, but I don't think it's enough for me to want to use an early asset. Judkins, Kaleb Johnson, Neal, even a guy like Jordan James at Oregon. There's a LOT. They may not all fit as well, or be as rounded, but plenty that can contribute and make this team better, imo.
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A RB has to have an exceptional set of traits for me to consider them in the 1st or 2nd round. Gibbs was one of those guys. Henderson is one of those guys this year for me but I don't have it in me to pound the table for a guy in round 1 again. If Henderson is there at pick 2 or pick 3A, then yeah. Honestly, Henderson is the exact type of back I could see Jerry Jones going all in on in round 1 even if he might not appear to have round 1 grades. The kid is going to probably run a 4.38 and he can do it all.

This is a loaded RB class. The Senior Bowl is going to feature some interesting cats. I want to see Bhayshul Tuten (Virginia Tech) who I like a bunch and Marcus Yarns (Delaware) who has the speed for days. The rest are a great set with Cam Skattebo (Arizona State), Jarquez Hunter (Auburn), R.J. Harvey (UCF), Trevor Etienne (Georgia), Devin Neal (Kansas), Damien Martinez (Miami), Donovan Edwards (Michigan), Kalel Mullings (Michigan), Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma State), Brashard Smith (SMU), and Woody Marks (USC) and none of these aren't even the top dogs in the class.

Overall, I don't think we have to hunt for an RB in this one. There will be options at our 3rd and 4th round picks.
Tuten is someone who popped out at me, too!

I thought I saw he had decided to return to school, though.
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He looks the part. It'll be interesting to see how he tests. Sometimes Big 12 film doesn't translate to real athletes. He also has a fair bit of miles.

This is me being an uberdouchehomer trying to temper myself.
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I'll guess around 30 with draftable grades. I'm sure the bottom of the list might have some differences but this should end up pretty damned close. Not necessarily my rankings here...

01. Ashton Jeanty, Boise State
02. Omarion Hampton, North Carolina
03. TreVeyon Henderson, Ohio State
04. Kaleb Johnson, Iowa
05. Cameron Skattebo, Arizona State
06. Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State
07. Ollie Gordon II, Oklahoma State
08. Dylan Sampson, Tennessee
09. RJ Harvey, UCF
10. Devin Neal, Kansas
11. D.J. Giddens, Kansas State
12. Kyle Monagai, Rutgers
13. Bhayshul Tuten, Virginia Tech
14. Jarquez Hunter, Auburn
15. Raheim Sanders, South Carolina
16. Damien Martinez, Miami
17. Jo'Quavious Marks, USC
18. Tahj Brooks, Texas Tech
19. Kalel Mullings, Michigan
20. Donovan Edwards, Michigan
21. Marcus Yarns, Delaware
22. Brashard Smith, SMU
23. Roman Hemby, Maryland
24. Jordan James, Oregon
25. LeQuint Allen Jr, Syracuse
26. Corey Kiner, Cincinnati
27. Mario Anderson, Memphis
28. Phil Mafah, Clemson
29. Ja'Quinden Jackson, Arkansas
30. Montrell Johnson, Florida
31. Jacory Croskey-Merritt, Arizona
32. Nate Noel, Missouri
33. Tre Stewart, Jacksonville State

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2.5 ypc and he didn't do much better against your tigers. Was a no show every game against Michigan too
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