Looks like we’re paying Bolton and letting Trey walk

[RunKC]

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Hopefully Bolton doesn’t rape us.

I think this is the most likely outcome unfortunately. Trey is gonna get $21 million APY.

Hoping we can keep Hopkins, Hardman and Juju on fair deals, maybe Uche if he’ll agree to a fair deal and extend Thuney’s deal to free up cap space and push that can down the road a bit.

Hicks can replace Reid. Wanya will likely replace Trey and we’ll look for a LT somewhere.

[Dante84]

Aren't we likely to cut Thuney this offseason? If Smith and Thuney exit, what's the backup plan?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Let them both walk.

Bolton is a major liability in pass coverage.

Smith is inconsistent in pass protection.

Neither will be worth the coin long-term.

Right.

With players like this who do have semi-big holes in their game, I think you take the Belichickian path of offering them what is a fair contract relative to their skill set, and if they can get a lot more money elsewhere, you wish them well in their future endeavors.

But you only pay premiums for guys who do not have holes in their game. McDuffie being the prime example upcoming. Everyone else, make a fair offer and let the chips fall where they may. This isn't an easy place to leave for players even when there's a raise waiting elsewhere. A lot of guys are gonna come crawling back within 2-3 years.

I'd also pay a premium for outside free agents who are elite talents while finding the next Trey Smith, Nick Bolton, etc through the draft.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Let them both walk.

Bolton is a major liability in pass coverage.

Smith is inconsistent in pass protection.

Neither will be worth the coin long-term.

Originally Posted by RunKC

I mostly agree with Verderame’s thoughts on this. Here’s his plan:

-Let Bolton walk
-re-sign Trey
-Extend McDuffie
-Work on extending Watson, Chenal and Cook to reasonable deals
-Move Kingsley to G and continue developing as a backup)
-Wanya at swing tackle
-Do whatever possible to move up for a LT in the draft
-wait and see on Karlaftis. Depends on price. If a fair deal like 4/$60 million is agreed to then keep him. If he wants the bag let him walk.

Don’t agree with all of that but I do think they need to spend the cap on key guys from the
2022 class. McDuffie, Chenal and Watson.

Those three have proven their value here and need to stay. They’re young and ascending.

We need to pay them

I agree with everything except the Trey part. It truly does depend on the cost.

But I can't pay a guy $20m + to play guard and then have games like last Sunday where he is hindering the offense as a pass blocker.

A play here or there, like Joe Thuney has been for four years, fine. Take the money. But a whole game of ass? No way. Use that on another player.

[DJ's left nut]

I'd rather bring Bolton back than Smith. And again - I don't want EITHER of them at their likely price point.

He's just a questionable fit here.

[O.city]

I'd let Trey walk and sign Bolton. Easy choice.

[RunKC]

Yeah I think Bolton is gonna stay mostly bc of Spags. I just pray to God the contract set up is worth it.

I think at worst Andy could snag a starting caliber RG in rd 2 if he really feels he needs to. But I do think Wanya or Nourzad could play there next year. Just can’t pay Trey.

They need to keep Hollywood too IMO. It’s beneficial to him and he wasn’t paid that much anyway. Really need to keep one of Omenihu/Uche as well

[threebag]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Same.

I love Bolton. I don't love keeping Bolton at the expense of other dudes

I hope there is a case where Smith's condition affords us a discount, but being there has been absolutely no word about it, that's a pipe dream.

Thanks dudes. Get the money.

This. If Bolton was playing lights out like he was, it would be different.

[O.city]

Yeah, Bolton is a really good player, I dunno what the issue with keeping him is.

I'd also not be interested in keeping Karlaftis, especially after I trade for Parsons this offseason.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by threebag

This. If Bolton was playing lights out like he was, it would be different.

For about 6 weeks, he was.

I'll say this, we have possibly the best run defense in football. And his strength is playing the run. Don't you think he has a LOT to do with that?

And more teams seems willing to try to beat you on the ground than in previous years.

If I had to keep one, Bolton would be the one I keep, no question. I just think I'd rather that money be spent elsewhere at this point. Because without a strong complementary pass rush, teams just aren't going to bother trying to run the football against us. They'll beat us to death in the air.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

For about 6 weeks, he was.

I'll say this, we have possibly the best run defense in football. And his strength is playing the run. Don't you think he has a LOT to do with that?

And more teams seems willing to try to beat you on the ground than in previous years.

If I had to keep one, Bolton would be the one I keep, no question. I just think I'd rather that money be spent elsewhere at this point. Because without a strong complementary pass rush, teams just aren't going to bother trying to run the football against us. They'll beat us to death in the air.

6 of 1 half dozen of the other.

When we were shit vs the run, we longed for a good run d.

I think it's easier to build a good run d though for cheaper, but shit I dunno.