Should the Chiefs have signed Saquon?

[Pitt Gorilla]

I know we didn't have a ton of cash and Pop is a decent back, but what would Saquon have looked like in our offense? He got just under $38 million over 3 years, which is a chunk. Had we not given Trav additional cap room (for no additional years) and restructured a few other deals, maybe?

Don't know, just throwing this out there.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

This place would’ve gone nuclear had we picked him up with that contract. It would’ve been absolutely insane.

Even if was playing like he is...KC likely wouldn't have been able afford all the injury/LT additions.

So retrospectively...he could have made the Chiefs, as a whole, actually worse. The Hunt/Pacheco tandem will likely be more than good enough...

[RunKC]

The Chiefs need a guy in the backfield who will break tackles and get us YAC the way McKinnon did.

Pacheco is a high effort player with juice but he’s never been a smooth pass catching guy the way McKinnon was.

I want them use Hardman in that role more like the Broncos are using Mims (their Hardman).

Marvin Mims in this 'Joker' or gadget player role has given the #Broncos a much-needed playmaker in their offense.

He has come up big in back-to-back weeks pic.twitter.com/fjMI6u66vg

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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Pretty sure every team in the NFL should have

Yeah - this is pretty much the answer.

That said, it's just so damn rare that big money RBs work out, especially when they change teams. And Saquon didn't look nearly as explosive his last couple of years in NY.

Now he just looks healthy and as strong as he's looked since he was a rookie. His legs are back and that's not something you can really expect to happen for most 'backs.

Any team in the league would've been better by signing the guy. He's the best RB out there - he's playing with the speed/explosion of McCaffrey and power of Henry. Yeah - hindsight says EVERYONE should've signed him.

But it is what it is.

[kcbubb]

RBs are undervalued, IMHO. If you can get a top 5 RB, that’s big and can pick up those short yardage first downs and also have a rb that can hit the homerun like Saquon as well as line up outside and run routes for around $10M per year, I think that’s the best bargain in the league right now. I was hoping the chiefs would trade for kamara as the saints season went down the toilet. Our oline is good enough to have a top 5 running game and we aren’t even in the top half of the league rushing. And for those that think that we can’t take the ball out of Mahomes hands, I think that Mahomes plays better and has more big plays with a dominant running game. The run game makes Mahomes more effective, not less.

[kcbubb]

Our longest run of the year was 34 yards and that might have been Mahomes?

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I want them use Hardman in that role more like the Broncos are using Mims (their Hardman).

Hardman is under utilized in this offense...every game, he makes plays.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

the eagles also have a historically great OL while ours is…eh

i sincerely doubt barkely would be having a season as good as he’s having in philly here

You're not wrong.

But I saw two run with Hunt yesterday that were open to be broken for 20+ yards and I think he got like 8 and 11 on them. Another that looked like it had a chance that he got 4 on.

Now maybe Pacheco's enough better than Hunt that he can hit one of those, but he doesn't always SEE them either.

The interior run blocking has been good enough this season that I do think Barkley would've busted a handful of those long runs here that Hunt just doesn't have the gear (or Pacheco the vision) to manage.

Barkley is a pretty spectacular player, fellas. I mean it's not like it was 15 years ago the guy went #2 overall. RBs were already being phased out in 2018.

He's just a bit of a different beast.

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

RBs are undervalued, IMHO. If you can get a top 5 RB, that’s big and can pick up those short yardage first downs and also have a rb that can hit the homerun like Saquon as well as line up outside and run routes for around $10M per year, I think that’s the best bargain in the league right now. I was hoping the chiefs would trade for kamara as the saints season went down the toilet. Our oline is good enough to have a top 5 running game and we aren’t even in the top half of the league rushing. And for those that think that we can’t take the ball out of Mahomes hands, I think that Mahomes plays better and has more big plays with a dominant running game. The run game makes Mahomes more effective, not less.

LOL If you paired Barkley with Mahomes the NFL season is over. Mahomes arm makes defenses play their safeties deep and there's no better player operating in that kind of space than Barkley. NFL would have had to get involved and stop the transaction like David Stern and the NBA did with Lakers and Chris paul.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

RBs are undervalued, IMHO. If you can get a top 5 RB , that’s big and can pick up those short yardage first downs and also have a rb that can hit the homerun like Saquon as well as line up outside and run routes for around $10M per year, I think that’s the best bargain in the league right now. I was hoping the chiefs would trade for kamara as the saints season went down the toilet. Our oline is good enough to have a top 5 running game and we aren’t even in the top half of the league rushing. And for those that think that we can’t take the ball out of Mahomes hands, I think that Mahomes plays better and has more big plays with a dominant running game. The run game makes Mahomes more effective, not less.

Yea, if you can get top 5 production for 10 mil. But RB tends to be especially risky when it comes to injury and short shelf life. Sure, now and then you get a Henry but that is rare.

[Monticore]

Yes we should have signed or drafted all the best players at each position, it’s science.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Hardman is under utilized in this offense...every game, he makes plays.

I agree. It's just that Worthy is kinda the same guy.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah - this is pretty much the answer.

That said, it's just so damn rare that big money RBs work out, especially when they change teams. And Saquon didn't look nearly as explosive his last couple of years in NY.

Now he just looks healthy and as strong as he's looked since he was a rookie. His legs are back and that's not something you can really expect to happen for most 'backs.

Any team in the league would've been better by signing the guy. He's the best RB out there - he's playing with the speed/explosion of McCaffrey and power of Henry. Yeah - hindsight says EVERYONE should've signed him.

But it is what it is.

Unsurprisingly, Howie Roseman made the call.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Saquon would look like shit here. Philadelphia runs the football consistently.

Tell me you don't watch the Chiefs without telling me you don't watch the Chiefs.

[Megatron96]

I think we're going to see RBs more highly valued, if the current passing trends continue. Somone here posted that article at the beginning of the season about how passing in general had taken a downturn over the last couple seasons. Don't remember where that was posted anymore; maybe someone else could find it and repost it. Anyway, part of the reason given was the widespread adoption of some version of the Fangio-6 defense/Cover-2 high shell/whatever.

Whether that's true or not doesn't really matter here, but just look at the top teams in the NFL this season. BUF, MIA, PIT, BAL, KC, LAC, DEN, PHI, DET, MIN, TB all have above-average to great rushing attacks. And all the teams that don't have a decent running game are at the bottom of the league.

And it's way easier to find good RBs than it is to find a great QB. And a ton cheaper.

Anyway, I won't be surprised to see teams start spending more $$$ on RBs than they have been recently, and less willing to pay big $$$ for average/slightly above average QB play.

[Brody Wa]

Originally Posted by Womble

Interesting question but I have a better one. Should the Chiefs have drafted Joe Montana in the 1979 draft? I still think Steve Fuller was the right move but I was only a glint in the milkman's eye back then.

It was definitely the right move. We would’ve won the SB if wasn’t for the kicker.