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Old 11-01-2021, 10:26 AM  
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Old 11-01-2021, 07:13 PM   #151
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Old 11-01-2021, 07:24 PM   #152
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At the end of the day, it's going to be a matter of 1) postseason success this year and 2) whether they can sign him. If they can get to the Super Bowl, no one's going to care what they gave up for him. And if they can re-sign him to a new deal, it'll be a steal to get a player like that.

But if he walks in free agency after a playoff disappointment, that would be pretty brutal.
Like a rental trade in baseball.

Win the World Series and the return is meaningless.
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Old 11-01-2021, 08:00 PM   #153
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It actually is, as much as it pains me to say it. If he stayed in Denver through the season they pay him anyway, and I believe they'd only get a 3rd as a comp pick when he signs somewhere as a free agent. But as it stands now, not only do they get the 3rd they would've gotten (actually a few picks higher) they get a 2nd as well. For a guy who - although he was playing well this season - is in the twilight of his career and who they had no plans to re-sign anyway.
5th would have been the best they could have gotten.
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Old 11-01-2021, 08:03 PM   #154
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I think it's a sign that, if nothing else, Paton has brought an honest, pragmatic point of view to the management of this team. He's not going to make decisions on a pipe-dream of getting the wild-card (and, I guess, getting Denver's poop pushed in if they get it) based on the team managing to (barely) beat a terrible team.
I hate to see Von go. But it’s a relief to me that we did it, for the reason you just mentioned. I hope a few others follow tomorrow. Maybe we only win six games, instead of seven or eight.
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To be sure. I have seen Denver fans lamenting not trading for Stafford--and he may have been a bit better. But it seems to me that the biggest difference is that the Rams have an offensive genius coaching and Denver has--whatever the opposite of genius is. I think most people would take Denver's receiving talent over the Rams'--and I think a decent coach could get quite a bit more out of it, with Bridgewater, Stafford, or another functional QB.
I think calling Shurmur’s offense and game planning could fairly be called pedestrian at this point.

Just seems defenses have been able to really key in on what he’s trying to run. Denver has one TD on an opening drive in the last 26 games or so. That’s just disappointing no matter who you are as an OC. They don’t seem to play with a sense of urgency or creativity in their play calling.

Defense has a number of objectively quality pieces and the investment in personnel has been made by the front office but injuries have played their part to make that side of the ball a more significant challenge than it might have been.

Fangio has to see the writing on the wall. Either he’s getting neutered and firing someone this off-season as a sign he’s turning the ship. Shurmur makes a fitting sacrifice but I suspect he’ll be canned and the search will be on for the offensive minded HC to take over and be part of the conversation on where the organization goes for the next qb.

But that’s just my take. Certainly, reasonable people can disagree.
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:25 PM   #156
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I think calling Shurmur’s offense and game planning could fairly be called pedestrian at this point.

Just seems defenses have been able to really key in on what he’s trying to run. Denver has one TD on an opening drive in the last 26 games or so. That’s just disappointing no matter who you are as an OC. They don’t seem to play with a sense of urgency or creativity in their play calling.

Defense has a number of objectively quality pieces and the investment in personnel has been made by the front office but injuries have played their part to make that side of the ball a more significant challenge than it might have been.

Fangio has to see the writing on the wall. Either he’s getting neutered and firing someone this off-season as a sign he’s turning the ship. Shurmur makes a fitting sacrifice but I suspect he’ll be canned and the search will be on for the offensive minded HC to take over and be part of the conversation on where the organization goes for the next qb.

But that’s just my take. Certainly, reasonable people can disagree.
Just reset the entire staff... Fangio is a good dude, but he's not a HC. Shurmur is just terrible, the game passed him by a decade and a half ago.
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:30 PM   #157
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Just reset the entire staff... Fangio is a good dude, but he's not a HC. Shurmur is just terrible, the game passed him by a decade and a half ago.
I'll take Fangio as our new DC, please fire him.
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Old 11-01-2021, 11:59 PM   #158
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Not surprised he's gone, but it's always kind of amazing how cheap teams can grab potentially game-changing (albeit declining) talent. Chances are the Rams will be picking late in the draft, so this is for a LATE 2nd and LATE 3rd. That's...not much.
Not much? Seems like quite a bit for what may be a half-season rental. He'll be 33 before the start of next league year so will the Rams want to re-sign him beyond offering a 1-year deal?

Late-in-the-round picks or not, they are still top 100 picks, and they give you some solid players. At some point, they need to stop trading all of their resources and start drafting players or they'll have a massive decline in the near future.
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Fangio may be in that Monty Kiffin/Wade Phillips mold. Good DCs that can’t make the jump to an effective HC.
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Say, what happened to all those picks?
We all know we would have wasted them anyway, so what difference does it make?

I suppose we wouldn’t have the 60 million dead money hit, but we probably would have wasted the money too, so NBD.
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