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Old 08-05-2024, 02:46 PM  
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Aiyuk to the Steelers?

Seems to be a lot of buzz around the Steelers finalizing a trade for Aiyuk.






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Old 08-07-2024, 12:39 PM   #136
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Even $1m difference is a lot of money.
Yup. And I don’t blame them.

Sure, as a fan, I’d like to think winning is most important.

In reality though, I’m for sale at all times. Someone wants to pay me more somewhere else? Where do I sign?

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Old 08-07-2024, 01:20 PM   #137
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They didn't even try until 18. They hadn't taken a 1st or 2nd round QB for 30 years.

The first year they tried they nailed it...
Flashbacks....
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:25 PM   #138
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That's laughably overblown. Robinson had 214 attempts. The highest in the whole league was Derrick Henry at 280.
now compare redzone touches
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:29 PM   #139
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In fact they annually trade away WR's because they aren't willing to pay at the position.

Yeah, it did raise an eyebrow...
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Chase Claypool
Diontae Johnson
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Steelers absolutely love to draft day 2 wide receivers and not give them a second contract.
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Old 08-07-2024, 02:12 PM   #140
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Honestly, wish Higgins had the balls to do this to the Bengals. They tagged him with zero intention of extending him. He's a one year rental, and he should treat them accordingly.
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Old 08-07-2024, 02:14 PM   #141
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Old 08-07-2024, 02:53 PM   #142
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Steelers absolutely love to draft day 2 wide receivers and not give them a second contract.
I have to admit to wondering wtf was different about him. I kinda' think the guy is overrated to be honest.

Is this just the new GM making a point he's gonna' do things differently?
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Old 08-07-2024, 02:57 PM   #143
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How so? Maybe his priority right now is financial security for life.

Let's not pretend Pittsburgh is some historically shit organization. He's going to a well-run franchise and getting paid to do it. While his team quality is taking a major step down for 2024, who knows what lies ahead.

Not sure how this move for him equates to flushing his career down the toilet.
The 'career' of any football player who isn't a quarterback is essentially little more than the pursuit of a 2nd contract.

It's not the end of his career - it's the culmination of it.

If the guy gets $50 million guaranteed he's MADE his career. He most assuredly hasn't torpedoed it.

Again fellas - its their job. It's a hobby for us but it's a vocation for them.

This is something of a no-brainer for him. And frankly, his style of play will be revered in Pittsburgh. He's a physical, aggressive player that the fans of Pittsburgh will fall in love with immediately.

Things are gonna be just fine for Aiyuk.
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Old 08-07-2024, 02:59 PM   #144
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dri archer

Steelers absolutely love to draft day 2 wide receivers and not give them a second contract.
Though looking at the list they made the right call. Not sure who would have warranted a huge contract from them. Brown-hard to give that head case a big deal. Claypool was a bust. I liked Juju but he did not warrant a big deal.
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Old 08-07-2024, 03:06 PM   #145
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Remember all the debate on whether SF would pay Aiyuk and who was more valuable to the team him or Deebo?

Yea those were good times.
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Remember all the debate on whether SF would pay Aiyuk and who was more valuable to the team him or Deebo?

Yea those were good times.
What exactly about any of this do you think settles that?

It's really simple. The 49ers are starting to run out of wiggle room with the cap, and they have their LT and only OL worth a shit holding out on top of Aiyuk demanding to be paid or traded. Aiyuk is playing hardball here, and forcing their hand.

Your side lost that debate before it ever happened because Aiyuk has been their WR1 the last 2 years and that's why he's about to get paid like one. Deebo is a hybrid WR/RB WR2, and a really good one, but the best WRs are the ones that can run routes and separate.
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What exactly about any of this do you think settles that?

It's really simple. The 49ers are starting to run out of wiggle room with the cap, and they have their LT and only OL worth a shit holding out on top of Aiyuk demanding to be paid or traded. Aiyuk is playing hardball here, and forcing their hand.

Your side lost that debate before it ever happened because Aiyuk has been their WR1 the last 2 years and that's why he's about to get paid like one. Deebo is a hybrid WR/RB WR2, and a really good one, but the best WRs are the ones that can run routes and separate.
Wait - this is a real debate?

Aiyuk is CLEARLY a better WR than Deebo.

Now maybe the 49ers find Deebo to be a more critical 'weapon' give his versatility. But in a vacuum (and on most NFL rosters) I'd take Aiyuk over Deebo 100 times out of 100.

This really may be little more than a timing issue. If we sign Creed and then in 2 years can't afford Karlaftis, it isn't a demonstration that we preferred Creed to Karlaftis. It's just that we had a guy who came up for a new deal that we wanted to keep so we did. And we hoped things would work out in 2 years with the other guy...then they didn't.

This stuff is often a lot simpler than we make it.
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Wait - this is a real debate?

Aiyuk is CLEARLY a better WR than Deebo.

Now maybe the 49ers find Deebo to be a more critical 'weapon' give his versatility. But in a vacuum (and on most NFL rosters) I'd take Aiyuk over Deebo 100 times out of 100.

This really may be little more than a timing issue. If we sign Creed and then in 2 years can't afford Karlaftis, it isn't a demonstration that we preferred Creed to Karlaftis. It's just that we had a guy who came up for a new deal that we wanted to keep so we did. And we hoped things would work out in 2 years with the other guy...then they didn't.

This stuff is often a lot simpler than we make it.
Yes, Virus is so ****ing clueless that he thought I was out of my mind for this take. He went as far as to say nobody else on this board or and FO executive would agree with me.

Then on of course I showed him a poll of executives, coaches, and scouts that had Aiyuk higher

His argument? The 49ers record with/without Deebo.
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Deebo has only had two seasons with over 1,000 combined yards. Sure a lot of that is due to injuries, but injuries are basically a part of what you expect from him at this point. The 49ers do a good job of force feeding him the ball in creative ways, but ultimately that’s what it is. It’s mostly not him just in the normal flow of a play. This is why you look at his game logs and it’s very up and down week to week, ask it is almost entirely dependent on if he breaks a big one or two plays in a game.
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Deebo has only had two seasons with over 1,000 combined yards. Sure a lot of that is due to injuries, but injuries are basically a part of what you expect from him at this point. The 49ers do a good job of force feeding him the ball in creative ways, but ultimately that’s what it is. It’s mostly not him just in the normal flow of a play. This is why you look at his game logs and it’s very up and down week to week, ask it is almost entirely dependent on if he breaks a big one or two plays in a game.
When we do that with Hardman "he's a worthless gadget player who can only get yards when you design a play to get him the football..."

When the 49ers do that with Deebo he's better than Aiyuk and an elite offensive weapon.

I am...puzzled.

Do gadget yards count or not, fellas?
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