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scho63 · 12-25-2023, 04:20 PM

Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era.

Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods.

And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg.

We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team.

At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles.

I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew.

Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride.

Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time.

Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins.

Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it.

This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely.

This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a ****ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular.

When your top two stars are ****ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble.

I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards.

We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024.

From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season.

Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.

**notorious** · 12-25-2023, 05:47 PM

What is the collective football IQ of this team if you leave Mahomes off the list?

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-25-2023, 05:48 PM

My eyes say 1 and done

TEX · 12-25-2023, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Agreed.

They are not good enough to overcome a bad/limited offense.

Especially with their inability to force turnovers.

Chiefs defense 24th in the league in forced turnovers.

Yep. When the team was 7-2 they had a negative turn over ratio. Its caught up with them now. This is who they are.

scho63 · 12-25-2023, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

My eyes tell me that Mahomes is a bit off, but my head tells me that this team can win a Super Bowl if he gets back into form. I'll never doubt what he can do, so there is always going to be hope. Especially in a playoff series. The best QBs win more often than not in the playoffs and we have the best.

What about the drops? Is Mahomes gonna throw to himself?
Penalties constantly that kill our drives or save the other team on 3rd and long. Both happened AGAIN today.
Kelce has been dog shit since getting Swift pussy.
Our Oline is horrific.
Turnovers
****ing play calling is so predictable teams seems to be in our huddle listening to the play.
Mistakes

They just don't all suddenly fix themselves in week 16.

I appreciate your answer and optimism but don't be shocked at how this season ends.

kcbubb · 12-25-2023, 05:56 PM

No chance I’m giving up on this team, especially with this defense. Our defense can be dominant. Obviously an awful loss today and We may lose but it’s very possible that Andy and PM can turn this around.

TEX · 12-25-2023, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

My eyes say 1 and done

My eyes have seen that for months now. But that's because Im not a "true fan."

Jerm · 12-25-2023, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

No chance I’m giving up on this team, especially with this defense. Our defense can be dominant. Obviously an awful loss today and We may lose but it’s very possible that Andy and PM can turn this around.

How is it very possible….? I’m being dead serious…

It’s Week 16 and we’re talking about the same mistakes and errors we’ve been talking about since Week 1…

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-25-2023, 05:58 PM

I saw better shit outta Baker and Flacco lately than Pat and that's ****ing pathetic

FloridaMan88 · 12-25-2023, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

No chance I’m giving up on this team, especially with this defense. Our defense can be dominant. Obviously an awful loss today and We may lose but it’s very possible that Andy and PM can turn this around.

Dude, the defense didn’t give up a completed pass after the first quarter today and the Chiefs STILL lost.

The defense can’t overcome the shitfest offense.

TEX · 12-25-2023, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

No chance I’m giving up on this team, especially with this defense. Our defense can be dominant. Obviously an awful loss today and We may lose but it’s very possible that Andy and PM can turn this around.

Ok... But its not giving up on a team to say they are backing into the playoffs and expectations are low, when the team has lost 5 of 8 games. Its really just keeping it real.

BWillie · 12-25-2023, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Rice isn't a good route runner yet...he's a manufactured touch WR..we have 3 guys who are manufactured touch WRs...that's why all the screens are back. None of these WRs can just run his route and get open.

Absolutely right. We have nobody we can trust in big moments on 3rd down.

scho63 · 12-25-2023, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

No chance I’m giving up on this team, especially with this defense. Our defense can be dominant. Obviously an awful loss today and We may lose but it’s very possible that Andy and PM can turn this around.

Giving up is what we did pre-Mahomes.

I'm not giving up as much as looking to the future to protect all the great pieces we have.

It's just that there is so much wrong, even Mahomes can't overcome it all.

Discuss Thrower · 12-25-2023, 06:02 PM

What is being seen is beyond belief.

Generational talent at QB. An undisputed top 10 head coach. An above average to legitimately good defense in the free agency era.

And everything looks like dogshit.

TEX · 12-25-2023, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Dude, the defense didn’t give up a completed pass after the first quarter today and the Chiefs STILL lost.

The defense can’t overcome the shitfest offense.

Exactly. Raiders only had like 62 yards passing and 144 total yards till that last dtive. Defense gave up only 6 points and the Chiefs still managed to lose ( at home).

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-25-2023, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Exactly. Raiders only had like 62 yards passing and 144 total yards till that last dtive. Defense gave up only 6 points and the Chiefs still managed to lose ( at home).

But they had a chance for a stop to save the game and let a jobber run out the clock

12-25-2023, 04:20 PM
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $-240000	Believe what your eyes tell you, not what your heart feels. Nearly all of us and at a minimum a vast majority has seen this team in the Cassel, Smith and Mahomes era. Another big chunk have watched the Montana, Green, Gannon, Grbac periods. And the old farts like me have had to endure Mike Livingston, Mark Vlasic, Steve Pelluer, Bill Kenney and Steve DeBerg. We ALL know the difference between a really bad team, an average team, an over achiever, an under achiever, a good and great team. At this point, if you don't realize that this 2023 Chiefs team is average at best and trending down, you need to remove your homer goggles. I love our team and have spent 53 years rooting for them when it was hard as hell to do and I didn't have other fans to console me after all the loses. I grew up in NJ. There were no Chiefs fans that I knew. Mahomes and the Super Bowl delivered incredible joy and pride. Now after 2 Super Bowls and non-stop winning we have hit an off year. It's easy to do in the NFL and we lasted longer than most teams do winning all the time. Many of you see it but have remained overly optimistic. God Bless your devotion. I did that already for 50 years and now I can be much more realistic after the SB wins. Do yourself a favor and be honest with yourself. You see it, you feel it and you know it. This team has no chance in the playoffs. Don't try to tell me anything can happen, because it really doesn't. Yeah, a neat play here or there or maybe a win against a shit team but even now that is unlikely. This team is burnt out. Since Game 1 not a **ing thing has improved and in some cases has gotten worse: Mahomes and Kelce in particular. When your top two stars are **ing up and look like they need a month off to rest, you know you are in trouble. I pray everyone stays healthy, we shut this shit show of a season down, rest our franchise QB before he gets injured or killed. The dude was running for his LIFE all day and our Oline has also gone backwards. We have a great young defense, can focus on Oline and WRs for draft and signing FAs to rebound in 2024. From play calling, to turnovers to penalties to oline blocking to drops, this has been a brutally ugly season. Time to turn the page on 2023 and get our shit fixed ASAP cause it ain't gonna change in 2023.
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