Let's Talk About the Cheaters (AKA Patriots Week)

[SHOWTIME]

Nothing would make me more happy to get on track with a huge win against the most fraudulent organization in the NFL in their own building. Need Pacheco, Smith, Tranquill, and Cook back soon. Also, need Bolton to play his usual snap count.

Could be the last time Reid and Belichick faceoff. Time to put Belichick out of his misery and send him into retirement.

Chiefs - 30

Spygaters - 3

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Well, it sounds good. I hope it works out that way. Though if your DBs can cover your WRs in practice, they'll probably be able to put the clamps our on WRs, aside from Rice.

I agree though, the rivalry was pretty good while it lasted.


Regardless, I'm probably still betting the under, if I decide to bet this game.

Sharps hitting that under at 46.5.

Yeah, Patriots actually draft man coverage guys and Buffalo had their zone corners playing man across the board on our WR's and shut us down.

That looks like a solid pick.Only way it hits over is if Patriots QB throws some pick 6's or turns the ball over a lot.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Sharps hitting that under at 46.5.

Yeah, Patriots actually draft man coverage guys and Buffalo had their zone corners playing man across the board on our WR's and shut us down.

That looks like a solid pick.Only way it hits over is if Patriots QB throws some pick 6's or turns the ball over a lot.

Yeah, that's the problem right there. Without turnovers, I'm guessing a pretty low score, like KC 17, NE 9. But when you have an offense as terrible as NE's, and a receiving group as bad as ours having to execute vs. a good defense like NE's, a couple pick-6s or fumble returns or whatever, and the score could get out of control pretty fast.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Yeah, that's the problem right there. Without turnovers, I'm guessing a pretty low score, like KC 17, NE 9. But when you have an offense as terrible as NE's, and a receiving group as bad as ours having to execute vs. a good defense like NE's, a couple pick-6s or fumble returns or whatever, and the score could get out of control pretty fast.

Yeah, that's why over/under bets are tricky. But as long as you aren't betting the farm and feel good overall it's worth putting a few bucks on.

I do think Patriots less likely to turn over ball now without Mac Jones. He and Zappe are similar talents but Jones just looked flustered there from the pressure mounting on his career. You also have to expect the Patriots to run the ball a lot to shorten the game and because that makes the most sense against Spags.

I also could see us turning the ball over but I don't see picks 6's for Mahomes.

[stevegroganfan]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

So you admit they cheated, so the asterisks stand...

There are no asterisks on the Patriots 6 championship banners and 5 other Super Bowl appearances. I wish the Patriots won more in the 80's and 90's but I'll blame the Patriots not drafting Jerry Rice instead of players like Rice cheating with stickum.

I'm fairly confident based upon what many ex players have stated that every NFL team since at least the Steelers in the 70's have had players that cheat with PEDs. That is so much more consequential than having a slight advantage how you gather signals when most teams were doing it. I'm speaking of the SB winning years.

Nick Saban is on record that he told the person talking to him to not give his guess of signals when he was working for Belichick in Cleveland. He said it messed him up and was more concerned with just appropriate defensive coverage based upon down and distance et cetera. So, Saban found the info Cleveland under Belichick gathered so useless that he mostly ignored it. That spying operationg in Cleveland didn't result in enough wins for Belichick to retain his job. Maybe his opponents did it better.

Whatever the case, the fact is that Brady raised his QBR nearly 20 points after everyone knew about Spygate. Bledsoe won less under Belichick. Patriots with Brady had higher winning percentage after Spygate than before Spygate.

Brady himself was the cheat code.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by stevegroganfan

There are no asterisks on the Patriots 6 championship banners and 5 other Super Bowl appearances. I wish the Patriots won more in the 80's and 90's but I'll blame the Patriots not drafting Jerry Rice instead of players like Rice cheating with stickum.

I'm fairly confident based upon what many ex players have stated that every NFL team since at least the Steelers in the 70's have had players that cheat with PEDs. That is so much more consequential than having a slight advantage how you gather signals when most teams were doing it. I'm speaking of the SB winning years.

Nick Saban is on record that he told the person talking to him to not give his guess of signals when he was working for Belichick in Cleveland. He said it messed him up and was more concerned with just appropriate defensive coverage based upon down and distance et cetera. So, Saban found the info Cleveland under Belichick gathered so useless that he mostly ignored it. That spying operationg in Cleveland didn't result in enough wins for Belichick to retain his job. Maybe his opponents did it better.

Whatever the case, the fact is that Brady raised his QBR nearly 20 points after everyone knew about Spygate. Bledsoe won less under Belichick. Patriots with Brady had higher winning percentage after Spygate than before Spygate.

Brady himself was the cheat code.

Somebody take out the trash!

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Chiefs have ALL of their linebackers back for this game.

We're going to shut that washed turd DOWN and you know it.

Chiefs had all their linebackers in Denver if I recall. Scrub ass Broncos RBs bent Steve over and ripped his panties in that game also.

The passes to the backs that just go uncovered are the most infuriating, and they've been a key ingredient in the drives where our defense is on the field for half the quarter on one series. Then getting repeatedly gashed on the ground. Belicheat doesn't want his ass qbs throwing the ball if they don't need to, much like Sean Payton didn't want Russell Wilson playing a dropback passing game.

At the half against Buffalo the bleeding stopped with Cook, but I'm not sure if that was a Spags adjustment or the Bills offensive coaching staff going full reerun and just ignoring the dude who popped a Priest Holmes tribute game at Arrowhead in the first half.

I'm leaning toward the latter, especially with how they called the game right before the 2 minute mark, ignoring their backs and not forcing us to burn timeouts there.

Belicheat will 1000% employ the sweaty tryhard clock control to keep Mahomes on the sideline as much as possible.

[rydogg58]

Originally Posted by stevegroganfan

1,000 words of brady cock-gobbling with another 500 words of patriot asshole licking.

Damn girl, you're a pro at this.

[carcosa]

KC Chiefs will win 69-0 LOL

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Yeah, that's why over/under bets are tricky. But as long as you aren't betting the farm and feel good overall it's worth putting a few bucks on.

I do think Patriots less likely to turn over ball now without Mac Jones. He and Zappe are similar talents but Jones just looked flustered there from the pressure mounting on his career. You also have to expect the Patriots to run the ball a lot to shorten the game and because that makes the most sense against Spags.

I also could see us turning the ball over but I don't see picks 6's for Mahomes.

Yah, I never bet a lot. It's more about just being correct for me. Well, except the $400-$500 I put on the Chiefs to win the SB every season since Mahomes became QB1, lol. otherwise, I'm betting really small stuff. $$10-20 parlays, $40-$50 games, nothing big.

The other thing is that I usually don't bet the Chiefs. Especially the last couple three years. Mostly I bet on Travis these days, but not the team.


But the under feels like a near-lock in this case, so I might put something down on them this week.


The real $$$ might go on CMC this weekend. Guy's made me more than what I've spent on X-Mas gifts, and I have 10 god-children, lol.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by stevegroganfan

There are no asterisks on the Patriots 6 championship banners and 5 other Super Bowl appearances. I wish the Patriots won more in the 80's and 90's but I'll blame the Patriots not drafting Jerry Rice instead of players like Rice cheating with stickum.

I'm fairly confident based upon what many ex players have stated that every NFL team since at least the Steelers in the 70's have had players that cheat with PEDs. That is so much more consequential than having a slight advantage how you gather signals when most teams were doing it. I'm speaking of the SB winning years.

Nick Saban is on record that he told the person talking to him to not give his guess of signals when he was working for Belichick in Cleveland. He said it messed him up and was more concerned with just appropriate defensive coverage based upon down and distance et cetera. So, Saban found the info Cleveland under Belichick gathered so useless that he mostly ignored it. That spying operationg in Cleveland didn't result in enough wins for Belichick to retain his job. Maybe his opponents did it better.

Whatever the case, the fact is that Brady raised his QBR nearly 20 points after everyone knew about Spygate. Bledsoe won less under Belichick. Patriots with Brady had higher winning percentage after Spygate than before Spygate.

Brady himself was the cheat code.

THis is exactly what Patriots fans do like clockwork if you bring up their cheating - point fingers at other teams. Fact - the Patriots are the only dynasty in NFL history caught cheating by the league and investigated for it. The Steelers may have used PEDs but that wasn't banned until the 80s. The 49ers were never investigated despite rumors of stick em and other shenanigans like jamming signals at Candlestick Park. And it's fitting that there is a giant asterisk on the flying elvis logo. Saban was Belichick's defensive coordinator. Coaches had headset to helmet communications with their QBs at the time so taping offensive signals was meaningless. OTOH, there was no one with green dot on their helmet on defense until 2008, after the Pats got caught red handed.

Ever wonder why an unheralded 6th round pick came out of nowhere and started winning SBs right off the bat? Spygate.

Brady was a great QB though - top 3 of all time I would say. Just not as great as everyone says. His legitimate 4-3 super bowl record is proof of that.

[63PatsFan]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Chiefs had all their linebackers in Denver if I recall. Scrub ass Broncos RBs bent Steve over and ripped his panties in that game also.

The passes to the backs that just go uncovered are the most infuriating, and they've been a key ingredient in the drives where our defense is on the field for half the quarter on one series. Then getting repeatedly gashed on the ground. Belicheat doesn't want his ass qbs throwing the ball if they don't need to, much like Sean Payton didn't want Russell Wilson playing a dropback passing game.

At the half against Buffalo the bleeding stopped with Cook, but I'm not sure if that was a Spags adjustment or the Bills offensive coaching staff going full reerun and just ignoring the dude who popped a Priest Holmes tribute game at Arrowhead in the first half.

I'm leaning toward the latter, especially with how they called the game right before the 2 minute mark, ignoring their backs and not forcing us to burn timeouts there.

Belicheat will 1000% employ the sweaty tryhard clock control to keep Mahomes on the sideline as much as possible.

It's tough guessing if NE's offense can build on the 3 TD's they scored against Pitt last week. They might, cause of improved QB & OL play. But KC's defense looks good right now, it will be tough. If there's no bad turnovers either way, I think their offense might have 16 points in them. Which is about what their D is likely to surrender; it's nice not having to worry about Hill. That gives us a close game in the mid-teens.

[Hawg73]

Originally Posted by carcosa

KC Chiefs will win 69-0 LOL

.

[Hawg73]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

THis is exactly what Patriots fans do like clockwork if you bring up their cheating - point fingers at other teams. Fact - the Patriots are the only dynasty in NFL history caught cheating by the league and investigated for it. The Steelers may have used PEDs but that wasn't banned until the 80s. The 49ers were never investigated despite rumors of stick em and other shenanigans like jamming signals at Candlestick Park. And it's fitting that there is a giant asterisk on the flying elvis logo. Saban was Belichick's defensive coordinator. Coaches had headset to helmet communications with their QBs at the time so taping offensive signals was meaningless. OTOH, there was no one with green dot on their helmet on defense until 2008, after the Pats got caught red handed.

Ever wonder why an unheralded 6th round pick came out of nowhere and started winning SBs right off the bat? Spygate.

Brady was a great QB though - top 3 of all time I would say. Just not as great as everyone says. His legitimate 4-3 super bowl record is proof of that.

So, with all this spying we depend on more than oxygen, why aren't we 10-3? We don't cheat as well as we used to? Roger has a black ops team spying on US?

I'm sure you'll have a theory, but I can't imagine what it might be and could use the entertainment. Thanks in advance!

The only thing I'm certain of is that if you were on the witch hunting crew in Salem back in the 1690s then the streets would have been packed neck-deep with the corpses of any woman that ever owned a broom.

I feel embarrassed that the normal folks of this forum have to be subjected to these kind of lunatic rants all the time. Get a life, son.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Chiefs had all their linebackers in Denver if I recall. Scrub ass Broncos RBs bent Steve over and ripped his panties in that game also.

This is one of your dumbest posts. The Broncos had 240 total yards. Our defense dominated.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This is one of your dumbest posts. The Broncos had 240 total yards. Our defense dominated.

Broncos scored 3 TDs in a that game. On those 3 drives, they gained a total of 99 yards.

So their average TD drive was 33 yards.