****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

For all the debates over what we're getting from Rice vs. JJSS - THIS is the biggest dropoff.

What we didn't replace is 2022 MVS. I think people forget how often he made big plays for us. And the plays he made were plays that led to points.

We got so focused on the plays that juuuuust missed that we lost track of the fact that hey - 20 of 'em hit. And when they hit, that's points on the board in some fashion.

MVS collapsing has really hurt us a lot. And like you, I just don't understand it. I mean I'll accept that he didn't get any better but damn, he shouldn't have gotten worse.

"SB Hangover" or complacency IMO is the culprit

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

The problem is, with his contract, "relatively well" isn't gonna cut it. He makes the $ and cap space he does, he's expected to do alot of things. You need high end elite play for that thing to get any value.

Maybe that's just not fair and not possible, I don't know. I figure he'll get this thing on the tracks because he always has.

If he's gotta have more than just competent weapons (they were last year, I still think there's similarities this year but results are results), it's not likely to happen.

Look at Superbowl winners and you see they usually have weapons all over the field.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Look at Superbowl winners and you see they usually have weapons all over the field.

They also never have a QB making the money Pat is.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

What the hell happened to this guy? Was last year an outlier for him? He was actually pretty good last year. He's a totally different player this year.

Guy just fell off a damn cliff

The 3rd pass Pat evades some pressure and throws the ball down the field. I didn't think that was allowed?

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

The 3rd pass Pat evades some pressure and throws the ball down the field. I didn't think that was allowed?

Some really tight window throws in those highlights that just aren't being made as well...

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

They also never have a QB making the money Pat is.

That’s why you have to accept you can’t build or sustain a defense like the 49ers and instead make sure your QB has the tools to score any time.

Money ball the defense.

[dlphg9]

Am I the only one that feels like most of this year has kinda felt like a chore to watch them? The games are just boring as shit. You get some build up of excitement only to be let down by a penalty, turnover, or FG.

I've never been someone who is excited by good defensive games, but I'm almost more excited to watch the defense over the offense (when the D is healthy).

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I don't think anyone thinks that.

Iowahawkeyechief definitely does. See how he responds to posts criticizing WRs. See how he is in the game threads.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

The 3rd pass Pat evades some pressure and throws the ball down the field. I didn't think that was allowed?

Yup. Mahomes not the same this year unfortunately.

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[wachashi]

Poor coaching is not likely what's caused these offensive issues, but it is up to the coaches to solve the problem.

They get to decide if they're going to play MVS more or less. They create the gameplans that highlight certain players running certain routes. They run the practices that perfect timing routes and instill discipline. And they call the plays on gameday based on what the opposing defense is showing.

If the offense suddenly starts looking like the 2022 version, the coaches will deserve credit.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

That’s why you have to accept you can’t build or sustain a defense like the 49ers and instead make sure your QB has the tools to score any time.

Money ball the defense.

Probably have to accept that it's an outlier to win SB's with a QB taking this much of the cap too, no?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by O.city

They also never have a QB making the money Pat is.

I remember when Patricks contract was looked at this great contract with great flexibility and maneuverability that would always allow us to sign players and make moves.

This narrative changed after the Tyreek deal and now it's this thing that keeps us from re-signing elite players and putting players around him. The re-structure definitely doesn't help the case.

I'll still hang on to the contract still being flexible if they choose. They just haven't chose that for some reason. I.e. using money from the backend of his contract to raise his numbers up the next 3 years instead of using cap space from this year and giving yourself room to sign players.

[O.city]

They "moneyballed" the weapons this year after it worked last year. It hasn't worked up to this point.

But everyone needs to understand, as we go along here, that's gonna have to happen somewhere.

It'll be interesting to see when they do it next year with the defense, who people will blame when we lost games in which the defense forced a punt or two. I don't know that Cp is ready for that.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by -King-

I remember when Patricks contract was looked at this great contract with great flexibility and maneuverability that would always allow us to sign players and make moves.

This narrative changed after the Tyreek deal and now it's this thing that keeps us from re-signing elite players and putting players around him. The re-structure definitely doesn't help the case.

I'll still hang on to the contract still being flexible if they choose. They just haven't chose that for some reason. I.e. using money from the backend of his contract to raise his numbers up the next 3 years instead of using cap space from this year and giving yourself room to sign players.

It did allow them to do that. You don't like who they used the money to sign. They're never going to get to a point where he's making like 70 million dollars on the cap, so they're pretty hamstrung with it. It's the cost of doin business.

I'm not a fan either, I'd have kept Tyreek and traded all our picks for Brian Burns.

[PHOG]

Keep it up only 610 moar posts for that super expensive FA WR