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Old 11-21-2023, 07:23 PM  
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2024 Draft - trade multiple picks to Cardinals to get Marvin Harrison Jr.

All I hear and see makes Marvin Harrison Jr a no-miss draft pick.

Like all picks, there are no guarantees.

If you're Veach, do you trade multiple picks, maybe 3 high rounders to the Cards for the #2 pick in the draft. They need MANY players to rebuild, not one superstar.

Good idea, bad idea or interesting idea?
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Old 11-22-2023, 04:19 PM   #106
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Old 11-22-2023, 04:19 PM   #107
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Chris Jones and a #1 to jump up. You either get a stud or you better draft 3 WRs and hope you have an A, B and C WR once done.
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Old 11-22-2023, 04:28 PM   #108
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The Chiefs have an abysmal record of drafting a WR. So logic says bundle multiple picks together to draft one. Logic escapes me
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Old 11-22-2023, 04:29 PM   #109
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It would take that or what the Vikings gave up to get Herschel Walker type of a deal. Problem is, neither of those teams (Vikings/Saints) won championships due to those deals so they are remembered in a negative light, even though Ricky was a good player. Can't remember if Walker was worth a shit for the Vikings or not.
That trade won the Cowboys multiple super bowls.

I had to look up the Ricky Williams trade and might have won the other team a title too if it weren't Washington. Washington did get Champ Bailey out of it but traded him for Clinton Portis. They also got LaVar Arrington, but used the rest of the picks on guys like Cade McNown, DWayne Bates, and Lloyd Harrison.
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Old 11-22-2023, 05:40 PM   #110
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Throw in a couple more picks and have multi trade getting Justin Jefferson and Watt too
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Old 11-22-2023, 05:56 PM   #111
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Old 11-22-2023, 07:58 PM   #112
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There's no way they would trade down that far and pass up on what appears to be a real generational talent at WR. They already are invested in Murray so they probably want Harrison JR and I wouldn't be surprised if he's picked #1 overall.

You'd probably have to give up damn near your entire draft and the next 2 years 1st round picks or something ridiculous and that isn't going to happen.
Murray is a crybaby who refuses to be a student of the game and Harrison will get neutered because of that I am afraid.
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Old 11-23-2023, 01:53 AM   #113
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I swear, most of CP wants to treat Mahomes like Green Bay treated Rodgers.

If Marvin Harrison Jr. goes to a team with even a mediocre QB, he will be better in 5 years than any combination of players we draft in the first two rounds of the next 3 drafts.

Superstar Wide Receiver vs a handful of potential draft busts/booms. It's not a hard choice.
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Old 11-23-2023, 02:23 AM   #114
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I swear, most of CP wants to treat Mahomes like Green Bay treated Rodgers.

If Marvin Harrison Jr. goes to a team with even a mediocre QB, he will be better in 5 years than any combination of players we draft in the first two rounds of the next 3 drafts.

Superstar Wide Receiver vs a handful of potential draft busts/booms. It's not a hard choice.
Yup, there's either trading at least 3 1's and 2 2's to move up in the draft and get Harrison OR there's not surrounding Mahomes with any weapons like GB did with Rodgers. There is no middle ground at all. Nice to have that cleared up.
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Old 11-23-2023, 08:16 PM   #115
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Yup, there's either trading at least 3 1's and 2 2's to move up in the draft and get Harrison OR there's not surrounding Mahomes with any weapons like GB did with Rodgers. There is no middle ground at all. Nice to have that cleared up.
You're being silly in what a team would have to give up.
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I swear, most of CP wants to treat Mahomes like Green Bay treated Rodgers.

If Marvin Harrison Jr. goes to a team with even a mediocre QB, he will be better in 5 years than any combination of players we draft in the first two rounds of the next 3 drafts.

Superstar Wide Receiver vs a handful of potential draft busts/booms. It's not a hard choice.
Right, because Karlaftis, McDuffie, Cook, FAU, and Rice haven't helped the team at all. Moore is not doing well but still, that is a lot of talent with those picks. We did not pick a player in the 1st in 2021 but we drafted Bolton and Creed with the two 2cd rounders we did have.
Yeah, it would be a good decision to give up all or most of those players for one WR.
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You're being silly in what a team would have to give up.
Not really. Moving up to a top 5 pick from 30+ is going to take more capital than we even have on the table. For reference, in 2021 the 49ers traded up from 12 to 3 and gave up three firsts and a third. It would be absurd.
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Not really. Moving up to a top 5 pick from 30+ is going to take more capital than we even have on the table. For reference, in 2021 the 49ers traded up from 12 to 3 and gave up three firsts and a third. It would be absurd.
Correct. Moving up from the end of the first to the beginning of the first would cost a ridiculous amount of picks.

The Panthers moved from 9 to 1, and it cost them 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and DJ Moore.

And those are the Panthers’ picks, which are far more valuable than the Chiefs’ picks.
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Not really. Moving up to a top 5 pick from 30+ is going to take more capital than we even have on the table. For reference, in 2021 the 49ers traded up from 12 to 3 and gave up three firsts and a third. It would be absurd.
I would never give that much up so yeah, I would not do it for that. I want talent but not risky souch you can't recover for years.
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I swear, most of CP wants to treat Mahomes like Green Bay treated Rodgers.

If Marvin Harrison Jr. goes to a team with even a mediocre QB, he will be better in 5 years than any combination of players we draft in the first two rounds of the next 3 drafts.

Superstar Wide Receiver vs a handful of potential draft busts/booms. It's not a hard choice.
Harrison is very good but nothing is guaranteed. As mentioned previously, this is a loaded WR class, and I think there’s guys in this draft class that will ultimately prove to be better than him when all is said and done.

The most aggressive move would be using our first 2 picks at WR without fleecing the farm. If we do that we still likely get what would be top 20 value at WR even in the 2nd given how deep this class is.
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