2024 Draft - trade multiple picks to Cardinals to get Marvin Harrison Jr.

[scho63]

All I hear and see makes Marvin Harrison Jr a no-miss draft pick.

Like all picks, there are no guarantees.

If you're Veach, do you trade multiple picks, maybe 3 high rounders to the Cards for the #2 pick in the draft. They need MANY players to rebuild, not one superstar.

Good idea, bad idea or interesting idea?

[kccrow]

We're not getting into the top few picks for Harrison Jr. It just isn't going to happen.

I'd gladly move up into the top 15 for his teammate though, Emeka Egbuka.

[Chris Meck]

Giving up multiple firsts plus more premium picks to draft a WR is nuts.

I'm absolutely for drafting one in the first or second, probably not two because it'll be difficult to get two rookies on the field.

And we'll cut MVS I'm sure, and probably sign a vet but it's not going to be a marquee, big money guy, it'll probably be someone like Mooney.

You don't gut EVERYTHING from what is a championship level team just to fill the WR corps, that's a bad idea. There are a lot of guys we're going to have to make decisions on this off-season. About half the defense, for example. We've got 5 picks and not a lot of cap room all things considered.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by bdj23

At this point I'd give Marvin Harrison Sr a call.

Accidentally thumbs down this when I wanted to thumbs up.

You might be right!

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Special_K

Legette is a DK Metcalf athletic freak running a 4.3 at 6’3” 227 Ibs. and Mitchell is a 6’4”lanky downfield threat that runs like a gazelle.

Both will likely be there for us in the first witb still a ton of talent left in the second.

So basically neither one will be even on our radar.

[Woogieman]

The smart play is to let about 5 teams fight over the remaining possible Franchise QBs at #28-32 (Daniels - LSU, Nix - Ore, maybe Ewers if he has good pro days)...trade down 5 to 10 spots, you still get tall, fast WRs like Franklin, Thomas, Polk, and get an additional 2nd to use on a pass rushing DT, decent OT, or a "slipper"

[Titty Meat]

If we're not winning every game it's important to mortgage the future

[Gravedigger]

I'd do it, you start shortchanging Mahomes and his career possibilities, he'll start to sour on KC and eventually be like Aaron Rodgers after enough times being snubbed. Rodgers was right to get out of Green Bay given that they got rid of Davante Adams, don't give Mahomes the same thought in his head, get him the best WR possible and one that is cheap for the next 4-5 years.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

The smart play is to let about 5 teams fight over the remaining possible Franchise QBs at (Daniels - LSU, Nix - Ore, maybe Ewers if he has good pro days)...trade down 5 to 10 spots, you still get tall, fast WRs like Franklin, Thomas, Polk, and get an additional 2nd to use on a pass rushing DT, decent OT, or a "slipper"

We say this every year, and only have potentially Rashee Rice to show for it. They've missed better receivers with Mecole Hardman and Skyy Moore, what makes you think they'll nail this one? Outside of Tyreek Hill, which was luck in the end given his history and us taking the chance on him in the draft, you haven't had any WRs to gloat about that you got in the draft.

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

I'd do it, you start shortchanging Mahomes and his career possibilities, he'll start to sour on KC and eventually be like Aaron Rodgers after enough times being snubbed. Rodgers was right to get out of Green Bay given that they got rid of Davante Adams, don't give Mahomes the same thought in his head, get him the best WR possible and one that is cheap for the next 4-5 years.

...and if Harrison tears an achilles, you have blown an entire draft- no Bolton, Humphrey, Gray, Karlaftis, Cook, Watson, Pacheco, Rice. Terrible idea, and who wants multiple picks at the bottom of the board when some rummy franchise will offer them multiple picks in the middle or near the top?

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

We say this every year, and only have potentially Rashee Rice to show for it. They've missed better receivers with Mecole Hardman and Skyy Moore, what makes you think they'll nail this one? Outside of Tyreek Hill, which was luck in the end given his history and us taking the chance on him in the draft, you haven't had any WRs to gloat about that you got in the draft.

Hopefully they learn from their mistakes...the DNA is there to make wise choices, perhaps you hire a consultant, shake things up. This is a deep draft at WR, so the odds of landing a #1 at 28-38 are fairly strong.

Of the Top 5 receivers in 2023:

AJ Brown went #51
Reek - #165
Keenan Allen - #76
Amon St. Brown Ra - #112

They are out there, BV just needs to not outthink it this year.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Special_K

This is the correct answer. This WR class is LOADED and we’ll see talent drop to us at the late 1st round that would normally be top 10-20 picks if not better.

Harrison will likely be the first WR taken, but I’ve seen mocks where Xavier Legette and Adonai Mitchell aren’t even taken first round and any other year those guy are locks to be top 20 guys.

Legette is a DK Metcalf athletic freak running a 4.3 at 6’3” 227 Ibs. and Mitchell is a 6’4” lanky downfield threat that runs like a gazelle.

Both will likely be there for us in the first witb still a ton of talent left in the second.

Legette is a 5th year senior who did literally nothing his first four years. This gives me great pause.

Mitchell, Franklin I like. Worthy, too. All different physical types, all can fly.

[old_geezer]

Are there any high quality WRs coming out in free agency this off-season? If so then my plan would be let Chris Jones walk, sign the WR and sign Sneed to a new contract. This would only work if there is a high quality WR available. I think Sneed plus a top WR is more valuable than Jones.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

I'd do it, you start shortchanging Mahomes and his career possibilities, he'll start to sour on KC and eventually be like Aaron Rodgers after enough times being snubbed. Rodgers was right to get out of Green Bay given that they got rid of Davante Adams, don't give Mahomes the same thought in his head, get him the best WR possible and one that is cheap for the next 4-5 years.

Green Bay drafted very poorly for years and Rodgers was begging the FO for help and they ignored him.

It's not nearly the same thing here.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Giving up multiple firsts plus more premium picks to draft a WR is nuts.

I'm absolutely for drafting one in the first or second, probably not two because it'll be difficult to get two rookies on the field.

And we'll cut MVS I'm sure, and probably sign a vet but it's not going to be a marquee, big money guy, it'll probably be someone like Mooney.

You don't gut EVERYTHING from what is a championship level team just to fill the WR corps, that's a bad idea. There are a lot of guys we're going to have to make decisions on this off-season. About half the defense, for example. We've got 5 picks and not a lot of cap room all things considered.

I think the right play at WR is to take one early and one late (obviously depends on what’s there). I assume we’ll also sign a Mooney-level WR and then some other vet who either 1) has underperformed or 2) is looking to bounce back (maybe from injury or something). Another Juju type situation.

It’s going to take volume. I’d bring Rice and Toney back. The rest can go.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I think the right play at WR is to take one early and one late (obviously depends on what’s there). I assume we’ll also sign a Mooney-level WR and then some other vet who either 1) has underperformed or 2) is looking to bounce back (maybe from injury or something). Another Juju type situation.

It’s going to take volume. I’d bring Rice and Toney back. The rest can go.

I think you're probably right.

MVS will be gone, saving us $10m.

Moore will be back, as he's on a rookie deal and cheap. Ideally, he's your WR#6. Watson is under contract, but in an ideal world, he's a cut because he's not good enough to make your football team. We hope.

I agree that Mooney would be a good target as an underutilized value pick-up.

And you draft one early.

Mooney, #1 or #2 pick, Rice, Toney, Moore. Maybe there's room for one more, maybe you just role with 5 like most years.