2024 Draft - trade multiple picks to Cardinals to get Marvin Harrison Jr.

[scho63]

All I hear and see makes Marvin Harrison Jr a no-miss draft pick.

Like all picks, there are no guarantees.

If you're Veach, do you trade multiple picks, maybe 3 high rounders to the Cards for the #2 pick in the draft. They need MANY players to rebuild, not one superstar.

Good idea, bad idea or interesting idea?

[George Liquor]

At this point I'd give Marvin Harrison Sr a call.

[Eureka]

Originally Posted by scho63

If you knew you were getting a Justin Jefferson or Jerry Rice level of player, it is far from insanely stupid.

The price may be far too high but certainly worth thinking about.

Kelce has little time left and we have NOTHING after him, not a thing.

Well Jefferson was the 5th receiver in his class at number 22 I think. The Chiefs would be better off to target someone in the 11-20 pick range. Less draft capital and they can get someone Mahomes can work with.

[jerryaldini]

There were three players taken in the third round this year that have more yards than Rice. No need to give up picks.

[Special_K]

Originally Posted by Eureka

Well Jefferson was the 5th receiver in his class at number 22 I think. The Chiefs would be better off to target someone in the 11-20 pick range. Less draft capital and they can get someone Mahomes can work with.

This is the correct answer. This WR class is LOADED and we’ll see talent drop to us at the late 1st round that would normally be top 10-20 picks if not better.

Harrison will likely be the first WR taken, but I’ve seen mocks where Xavier Legette and Adonai Mitchell aren’t even taken first round and any other year those guy are locks to be top 20 guys.

Legette is a DK Metcalf athletic freak running a 4.3 at 6’3” 227 Ibs. and Mitchell is a 6’4” lanky downfield threat that runs like a gazelle.

Both will likely be there for us in the first witb still a ton of talent left in the second.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Special_K

This is the correct answer. This WR class is LOADED and we’ll see talent drop to us at the late 1st round that would normally be top 10-20 picks if not better.

Harrison will likely be the first WR taken, but I’ve seen mocks where Xavier Legette and Adonai Mitchell aren’t even taken first round and any other year those guy are locks to be top 20 guys.

Legette is a DK Metcalf athletic freak running a 4.3 at 6’3” 227 Ibs. and Mitchell is a 6’4” lanky downfield threat that runs like a gazelle.

Both will likely be there for us in the first witb still a ton of talent left in the second.

In that case just draft the top 4 receivers on the board at the time with the first 4 picks and hope a couple of them sticks, if you have to cut one or two because they are basically skyy moore then so be it. That's if they don't get anybody significant in free agency first. If they only get 1 guy in free agency, just do the first 3 picks and hope you get lucky. At least 5 of these receivers currently on the team need to get their asses cut so they'll need to be replacing them.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Man, I hope Veach reads CP and realizes he just needs to follow stupid trade ideas from a hooker ****ing, Italian food splurging, and suntanned fat ass to turn the receiver position around.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

It would be at least 3 1's, 2 2's, and more than that.



It would be insanely stupid.



But we lost yesterday so make the trade NOW!

Why?

We don't get 1st round talent in the 1st round because we are always picking in the 30s.

Would you trade FAU and Rice for a true #1 receiver, on a rookie deal, for 5, FOR FIVE years? If not, you are wrong.

I would trade 3 years of FAU and Rice, and 3 years of Karlaftis and Skyy Moore, or whatever bust of a receiver we draft in the second round after drafting a second rounder at the end of the 1st round, for 5 years of having a true number one receiver.

We don't really need to draft a lot on defense since we are the youngest snap adjusted defense in the NFL, and other than receiver, and maybe a TE, we really don't need to draft a lot on offense.

So, why is a bunch of second round maybes more valuable than a possible generational wide receiver?

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

Why?

We don't get 1st round talent in the 1st round because we are always picking in the 30s.

Would you trade FAU and Rice for a true #1 receiver, on a rookie deal, for 5, FOR FIVE years? If not, you are wrong.

I would trade 3 years of FAU and Rice, and 3 years of Karlaftis and Skyy Moore, or whatever bust of a receiver we draft in the second round after drafting a second rounder at the end of the 1st round, for 5 years of having a true number one receiver.

We don't really need to draft a lot on defense since we are the youngest snap adjusted defense in the NFL, and other than receiver, and maybe a TE, we really don't need to draft a lot on offense.

So, why is a bunch of second round maybes more valuable than a possible generational wide receiver?

But you can’t frame it like this because it’s not the way it works.

You can’t just say - would you trade these players taken at this position whom we already know exactly what they are and what they’ve been doing and in return we’re going to get a clear #1 receiver. That’s not the trade. And it’s definitely not 3 years of those guys - it’s 5 of the 1’s and 4 of the 2’s.

The relevant conversation is trading 3 1’s and 2 2’s in the future as a starting point for the discussion.

Because rather than the pick being Skyy Moore, it could be Chris Jones. Rather than Karlaftis, it could be McDuffie.

If I said the trade was 5 years of McDuffie and the first 4 years of Chris Jones’ career plus 2 more 1’s and another 2, are you sure that’s a trade you’d make? (That’s as unfair a way to frame it as you just did.)

[WhawhaWhat]

Maybe we can get Taylor Swift to sing at his daughter's birthday party in exchange for the pick.

[seamonster]

I can't think of a team in modern NFL history that's done worse than the Chiefs at drafting pass catchers. They're atrocious. And I'm not that high on Rice. 3rd round talent Terry Mclaurin was jumping off the screen his rookie year and his quarterback died in traffic. Rice gets eight thousand snaps a game and looks average.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by scho63

If you knew you were getting a Justin Jefferson or Jerry Rice level of player, it is far from insanely stupid.

The price may be far too high but certainly worth thinking about.

Kelce has little time left and we have NOTHING after him, not a thing.

Jerry Rice's son IS in this draft, likely going at the bottom of the 2nd.

Just in case we don't cash it all in for Marvin Harrison's boy.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

Why?

We don't get 1st round talent in the 1st round because we are always picking in the 30s.

Would you trade FAU and Rice for a true #1 receiver, on a rookie deal, for 5, FOR FIVE years? If not, you are wrong.

I would trade 3 years of FAU and Rice, and 3 years of Karlaftis and Skyy Moore, or whatever bust of a receiver we draft in the second round after drafting a second rounder at the end of the 1st round, for 5 years of having a true number one receiver.

We don't really need to draft a lot on defense since we are the youngest snap adjusted defense in the NFL, and other than receiver, and maybe a TE, we really don't need to draft a lot on offense.

So, why is a bunch of second round maybes more valuable than a possible generational wide receiver?

The alternative approach is to double-dip given the depth of talent. I know the argument against is rookie's don't get a chance and it takes time to learn the offense, but maybe there's a concurrent rethink from the team on how to put rookie WRs in the best position to succeed.

Take 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by JPH83

The alternative approach is to double-dip given the depth of talent. I know the argument against is rookie's don't get a chance and it takes time to learn the offense, but maybe there's a concurrent rethink from the team on how to put rookie WRs in the best position to succeed.

Take 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds.

I'm game for 2 early WRs.

Which of our current WRs would you even want back next season? Rice.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by seamonster

I can't think of a team in modern NFL history that's done worse than the Chiefs at drafting pass catchers. They're atrocious. And I'm not that high on Rice. 3rd round talent Terry Mclaurin was jumping off the screen his rookie year and his quarterback died in traffic. Rice gets eight thousand snaps a game and looks average.

All true and I feel the same about Rice. If he's going to be so good, then we should be getting him more work. Why doesn't he? Many WR's come out the gate and are killing it but never ours. Maybe that's Andy system being too tough? Why is it Juju came in and was great from the start? Maybe Rice is being over hyped.

[Dunerdr]

I haven't read the whole thread but I'd move up for the georgia tight end and save some capital first i think. Sign a WR in FA.