****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[GloryDayz]

Two years ago our offense player's lives weren't reality TV shows. Let that sink in.

Wait, TH moved to Miami...

My bad...

[TEX]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

I feel bad for Travis on that fumble. Defenders take wild desperation swings all the time to try to knock the ball out, and he defender just made a lucky punch that landed perfectly and jarred the ball loose.

Deal is, nobody feels worse than Travis.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by TEX

Exactly. Now do the 2nd half of games

You going to answer my ****ing question or not coward?

Little passive aggressive bitch.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

I feel bad for Travis on that fumble. Defenders take wild desperation swings all the time to try to knock the ball out, and he defender just made a lucky punch that landed perfectly and jarred the ball loose.

Same thing with his Cincy fumble last year. He needs to get down quicker on those plays instead of trying to gain an extra 1-2 yards. Defenders are trained to focus on stripping the ball more than tackling the guy these days. Gotta be smarter against that.

And of course Mahomes had the terrible interception in the end zone. Need the two superstar players to avoid these mistakes. Mahomes & Travis cost the team 6-14 points on those two plays.

Meanwhile Jalen Hurts fumbled near his own goal line and the ball bounced right back to him. Very lucky on his end, but it goes to show the importance of ball security. No room for error in the NFL.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by TEX

Deal is, nobody feels worse than Travis.

Oh MVS doesn't?

It's not an excuse for one and not the other. That's not how it works.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I know this is blasphemy here but...gulp...

Spoiler!

Kelce looks really old. He's not what he used to be. Even what he was last year.

I was thinking this tonight. He did get dinged early. Aren't seeing the YAC or his ability to get separation. Still very good, but not nearly enough to makeup for not having a number one (or even 2 really) WR.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

I feel bad for Travis on that fumble. Defenders take wild desperation swings all the time to try to knock the ball out, and he defender just made a lucky punch that landed perfectly and jarred the ball loose.

Some team's practice it, some really don't. It's more effective with players willing to sacrifice ball protection for a yard or two.

Like playing 3rd-and-long for DPI, playing for the punch-fumble is a pretty good strategy.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

JJJL balled out in preseason with Carolina a couple years ago iirc. Go get him!

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Some team's practice it, some really don't. It's more effective with players willing to sacrifice ball protection for a yard or two.

Like playing 3rd-and-long for DPI, playing for the punch-fumble is a pretty good strategy.

Our DBs tried to help Travis with ball security in training camp but he wanted to fight them instead…

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by DRM08

They have 40ish days to figure it out. The offense has been a sloppy mess for the first 60% of the regular season. The only silver lining is that it can’t get worse, so maybe it will get better. If not, oh well. We have a large enough sample size at this point to have pretty low expectations of the offense this year. Maybe it continues, but hopefully they can figure out a way to play cleaner football.

If they can get to mediocre then the chiefs are unstoppable. Just being serviceable isn't too much to ask for pro players. Just be where you're supposed to be and catch what hits you. No one is asking them to make the catch Cortland Sutton made against the Bills, just hold on to the shit that hits their hands and you win every game

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by TEX

It's Mahomes' fault his WR's drop passes. Dumb Dumb.

Nope, it's the WRs thinking catching the ball is too much of an ask. They seem OK with a paycheck and not being highlight reel material. That said, PMII hasn't been what he has been in previous years, but that doesn't change that his useless WRs are dropping passes that sald way good WRs would catch.

To be clear, our WRs don't care, and their performance tonight supports my claim/accusation and them pretending to be mad about it is just a desperate attempt to not be cut. True NFL WRs would have made those catches.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I get blaming Veach for the WR room, but in order to have improved that you’d have to be fine getting worse somewhere else.

Veach has put a ton into this defense the last few years, and the moves have mostly been good ones.

If you want more at WR (which I completely understand), you’ll have to be fine getting worse somewhere else.

And there’s a strong argument that we’re seeing diminishing returns from the investment in this defense.

I get what you’re saying but I just don’t get the argument that we’re going to get worse somewhere else before we get better.The fact is we just didn’t try very hard and I don’t want to hear this talk about how we pumped so much into this position. We have one of the bottom 5 investments in the position cap and draft wise. I don’t think the pro wr groups demands were that unreasonable. We’re not talking about davante Adams. Someone said it best that we were so stuck on moneyball that $10m WRs were treated with such sticker shock. It was more of a confidence bordering on arrogance that Reid and mahomes were so good they can carry anybody

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I get what you’re saying but I just don’t get the argument that we’re going to get worse somewhere else before we get better.The fact is we just didn’t try very hard and I don’t want to hear this talk about how we pumped so much into this position. We have one of the bottom 5 investments in the position cap and draft wise. I don’t think the pro wr groups demands were that unreasonable. We’re not talking about davante Adams. Someone said it best that we were so stuck on moneyball that $10m WRs were treated with such sticker shock. It was more of a confidence bordering on arrogance that Reid and mahomes were so good they can carry anybody

Yeah, if MVS got 10 million they could have paid Hopkins 12 million or something like that.

They tried to do with the WRs what they did with the CBs last year but our CB, secondary scouts are better.

We didn't have a Sneed and McDuffie here in the WR room. And we didn't take shots on guys later like Tyler Scott.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Oh MVS doesn't?

It's not an excuse for one and not the other. That's not how it works.

MVS is not Welcome in this town anymore. He can get as mad as he wants, but he failed at his profession. No excuses, he failed. He can go **** himself.

He needs not worry, coach has his back (coach Reid is always the nice guy), so MVS won't change anything and he will keep dropping balls.

Tonight was one drop too many, he's useless.