****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Yeah I know but for teams with a number one that's probably pretty stable week to week absent injuries. Anyway we came into the season trying guys out, so no one guy was going to see the field that much, and the only one to emerge is a rookie who you don't expect to get that level of snaps. Good to see them adjusting now on the fly.

I just don't think the rotation is that big of a deal. It's the talent and lack of trust/experience with Mahomes. Hoping James might still be a decent chain mover option in this second half, along with Rice.

Sorry, I really was just trying to clear things up. Tbh, I had to read that quote a couple times before I understood what that guy was trying to say. The first time through, my mind went, "what is this guy on about?" Lol.


Anyway, I think we all pretty much knew that there'd be a rotation at first. I think the quote becomes much more notable now that we're more than halfway through the season and it's still happening at this rate. At least that's my guess.


And I'm with ya, hoping desperately that James balls out, or at least plays at a significantly higher level than what he showed early on, that Rice starts getting 7-9 targets/game, and that SOMEONE ELSE in that room starts looking like an actual NFL WR.

[Stryker]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

YAWN! Been saying this all along. This team is NOT going to win a SB, nor an AFCCG with this lackluster WR group. It is a shame because we have a top 3 defense. Wasted year for Mahomes.

You will witness Ravens vs. Dolphins

Eagles vs. Browns

SB will be Ravens vs. Eagles

Ravens win

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Stryker

YAWN! Been saying this all along. This team is NOT going to win a SB, nor an AFCCG with this lackluster WR group. It is a shame because we have a top 3 defense. Wasted year for Mahomes.

You will witness Ravens vs. Dolphins

Eagles vs. Browns

SB will be Ravens vs. Eagles

Ravens win

Ravens will stall like they always do.

It will be us or Cincy

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by Stryker

YAWN! Been saying this all along. This team is NOT going to win a SB, nor an AFCCG with this lackluster WR group. It is a shame because we have a top 3 defense. Wasted year for Mahomes.

You will witness Ravens vs. Dolphins

Eagles vs. Browns

SB will be Ravens vs. Eagles

Ravens win

Will be weird if the Browns beat the Eagles and the Ravens have to play them a third time in the SB.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Stryker

YAWN! Been saying this all along. This team is NOT going to win a SB, nor an AFCCG with this lackluster WR group. It is a shame because we have a top 3 defense. Wasted year for Mahomes.

You will witness Ravens vs. Dolphins

Eagles vs. Browns

SB will be Ravens vs. Eagles

Ravens win

Uh, wut?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Stryker

YAWN! Been saying this all along. This team is NOT going to win a SB, nor an AFCCG with this lackluster WR group. It is a shame because we have a top 3 defense. Wasted year for Mahomes.

You will witness Ravens vs. Dolphins

Eagles vs. Browns

SB will be Ravens vs. Eagles

Ravens win

You just said Browns vs Ravens like two days ago you ****ing clown.

Good thing you aren't real.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Ravens will stall like they always do.

It will be us or Cincy

They barely lost to the Bengals last season in the playoffs w their backup QB. If Lamar continues to play how he is I don't see them losing to Bengals. They aren't like the Bills, they are built to play that team.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I think it's more about them taking 10 weeks to find out who they want to bring to the dance more than anything.

I don't think it's a coincidence that they did this in a year where they threw numbers and young talent at the position.

I don't think it was ever a long term plan to keep doing it, but we shall see.

I agree. I think the snap counts will start to stack heavier in favor of specific guys instead of continuing to be this mush of nothingness. The plan seemed to be to play everyone and hope depth was our weapon.
That hasn't worked.

I do find myself most confused by Toney. I thought we would see some more designed slants or something this year. I figured they would get it to work by force if necessary. Not sure if it's load management or just been that poor on his end. Rice Toney Watson and Gray seem to be the guys with at least a chance of looking ok.

[Megatron96]

According to ESPN 3 days ago:


Mahomes when targeting WRs in 2023



Off-target %: 14%, best of Pat's career

TD-INT ratio: 7-5, worst of Pat's career

Drop %: 8%, worst of Pat's career

Comp%: 64%, 2nd worst of Pat's career


So, while I get that Pat's not having his best season, that he hasn't played as well as he could have through 9 weeks, that the play-calling could've been a lot better, etc. . . .

When he has thrown it to his WRs, he's been more accurate than he was in any other season, but his WRs haven't rewarded him at all.


Associated video:

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

According to ESPN 3 days ago:


Mahomes when targeting WRs in 2023



Off-target %: 14%, best of Pat's career

TD-INT ratio: 7-5, worst of Pat's career

Drop %: 8%, worst of Pat's career

Comp%: 64%, 2nd worst of Pat's career


So, while I get that Pat's not having his best season, that he hasn't played as well as he could have through 9 weeks, that the play-calling could've been a lot better, etc. . . .

When he has thrown it to his WRs, he's been more accurate than he was in any other season, but his WRs haven't rewarded him at all.

That's why I say have more plays where Rice is the main target and see what he can do. This spreading it around like Andy likes to usually isn't going to work with this group in my opinion. Not enough depth.

[BWillie]

Not what else you can say. The charts say that Mahomes is finding the open man STILL (the 4th most amount) despite having WR's that are getting the 3rd or 4th least amount of separation...and have a significantly below average YAC.

[FloridaMan88]

WR’s gone wild.

𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: #Saints WR Michael Thomas is being accused of throwing a brick at the car of contractors who kept parking in the street near his house, per @wdsu

Thomas is also accused of taking the guy’s phone and throwing it when he started recording. Michael Thomas’… pic.twitter.com/JlcWDyeV0N

— JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) November 11, 2023

[Sassy Squatch]

That's now what Bricks for Hands means, slant Boy

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

WR’s gone wild.

𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: #Saints WR Michael Thomas is being accused of throwing a brick at the car of contractors who kept parking in the street near his house, per @wdsu

Thomas is also accused of taking the guy’s phone and throwing it when he started recording. Michael Thomas’… pic.twitter.com/JlcWDyeV0N

— JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) November 11, 2023

What a ****in loser. I hate people who freak out because people park legally near their house where it is public domain. You don't own the street, pal.

[OKchiefs]

Our standards for WR play have gotten so low that when Rashee Rice has 60-70 yards we generally would say he had a great game. Don't get me wrong, for a Chiefs rookie WR he's doing really well. But compare him and every other WR on our roster to the top 3 in Houston and it makes you scratch your head.

Nico Collins, Tank Dell, and Noah Brown have a combined 6 100-yard games between the group of them (2 each). Nico Collins is clearly an up and comer, someone who actually developed at the position. Noah Brown was a nobody before Houston, now a clear example of a QB elevating the play of his WRs. Tank Dell is a rookie who I honestly did not expect to do what he's doing because of his size, so shows what I know. I don't see how this is a group that is THAT much more talented than our receivers, yet the team has found a way to get them into the offense and in a position for their QB to get them the ball.

Why is that so hard to do in KC?