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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 11-09-2023, 03:27 PM   #6511
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Did I say that?
It was a bad pick.

No asterisk needed.


It happens, no one hits them all.
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Old 11-09-2023, 03:27 PM   #6512
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So we couldn't afford to add 5 million at the deadline but we can pay another WR 30 million?!





I have no idea where you even coming from on this.
In the offseason, you know, after the SB, once they let Jones and company walk and have the cap space, I'd do that yes.
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Old 11-09-2023, 03:27 PM   #6513
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That's not how the draft works.

You pick based on the players available that season from college.

Saying Mecole would be fine in another draft with poor WRs is no consolation prize.
Again, Mecole was meant to be a Tyreek replacement, who days before the draft looked like would be cut based on the audio released. We wouldn't have even selected a receiver there if it weren't for the Tyreek audio... and Metcalf wasn't a replacement for Tyreek's speed and would not have even been on the board.
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Old 11-09-2023, 03:28 PM   #6514
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In the offseason, you know, after the SB, once they let Jones and company walk and have the cap space, I'd do that yes.
I don't think you understand how the cap works.

They can create space any year they want.

It's not fixed.
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Old 11-09-2023, 03:29 PM   #6515
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You don't have to bat 1.000. I didn't say that. He's been very good drafting. He might be the best drafter of secondary players I have ever seen. But so far, his WR picks haven't been great or even average overall. You can acknowledge that and still think he's a very good GM.
Again, when judged against the capital he's actually spent at the position, I think his WR picks have been pretty much dead-ass average. Though that's presuming that Rice continues to develop into a fringe #1/strong #2 as he appears to be trending.

You want to base your outcomes on guys NOT taken in any given year but that doesn't give fair perspective, afterall, most OTHER teams also missed on those guys in some form or fashion. I mean why make a WR for WR comparison - anybody that took anyone that WASN'T DK Metcalf missed on him just as badly as Veach did when he took Hardman. The Raiders taking Trayvon Mullen isn't a 'closer' miss because Mullen's not a WR. It's a worse miss because Mullen sucked balls.

Tennessee getting AJ Brown at 51 that year is the only team in the round who you can realistically say DIDN'T **** up their 2nd round pick that season when you start talking about who DIDN'T get taken. For that matter, pretty much everyone ****ed up their FIRST round selection by that calculous. I mean Metcalf is probably one of the 10 best players out of that draft.

It's just not a representative way to evaluate things.
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Again, Mecole was meant to be a Tyreek replacement, who days before the draft looked like would be cut based on the audio released. We wouldn't have even selected a receiver there if it weren't for the Tyreek audio... and Metcalf wasn't a replacement for Tyreek's speed.
Veach himself disagreed with this.

You don't replace Tyreek one to one.


If they wanted speed it should have been McLaurin.
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Old 11-09-2023, 03:30 PM   #6517
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I don't think you understand how the cap works.

They can create space any year they want.

It's not fixed.
Well, I mean, yeah it is "fixed". It's a hard cap.

Once they hit the offseason and have the evaluation periods to know how they need to manage the thing going forward, yes they can "create" some space if they need to, by pushing money into future years. Which makes it more expensive on the guys you do that with to cut as they're older and likely worse players.

Seems you needed the cap explained to you.
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JJSS in NE.

It's just not a market I'd wanna swim in anymore.

We've got the cheap young players. I'm gonna go give my first and next years 2nd to Dallas and pay Ceedee 30 million a year.
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Well, I mean, yeah it is "fixed". It's a hard cap.

Once they hit the offseason and have the evaluation periods to know how they need to manage the thing going forward, yes they can "create" some space if they need to, by pushing money into future years. Which makes it more expensive on the guys you do that with to cut as they're older and likely worse players.

Seems you needed the cap explained to you.
No, you just said they needed to wait till next year.

That is false.

They did not need to wait at all, they chose not to spend.
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So don't pay anyone but insist Mahomes pull guys no one else would start over the finish line.


Got it.
There isn't much money to pay a WR, because Patrick Mahomes is making so much money. Like how is this so hard to understand?
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No, you just said they needed to wait till next year.

That is false.

They did not need to wait at all, they chose not to spend.
What were they supposed to do? Enlighten us.
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There isn't much money to pay a WR, because Patrick Mahomes is making so much money. Like how is this so hard to understand?
Should I pull the salaries going to WR's on other teams that paid their QB?

Too hard for you to "understand"?!
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No, you just said they needed to wait till next year.

That is false.

They did not need to wait at all, they chose not to spend.
They chose not to spend at a time when teams doing the trading have leverage and the Chiefs have 3 million in cap space.

They'll likely have a better idea in the offseason what the cap looks like going forward once they know who they will and will not resign
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What were they supposed to do? Enlighten us.
This has already been done in this thread 1000 times.

Go back and read it if you like.
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Should I pull the salaries going to WR's on other teams that paid their QB?

Too hard for you to "understand"?!
Yes, please do that.

All those Qb's aren't into the actual meat of their contracts yet anyway, so it should be interesting to see you break it down.
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