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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:15 AM   #6391
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From HBTC says it all, IMHO...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umm3gKApCRY

I have been slammed on this board for my opinions but, I am not thin skinned at all - I can take it. Look, I LOVE this team with all of my heart and soul but I see what you all see but do not want to face it's reality. We are sitting pretty, YES - BUT, we need an offensive FIX fast! That is all I am saying. I love you guys and this board but the CHIEFS need to address the offense if we are going to get this done! Do I BELIEVE? Yes, of course I do! In Reid I trust! Let's turn this offense around already!
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YAWN! THIS team has no RED ZONE efficiency! Can you NOT see that? Keep in mind - Eagles, Bills and Bengals. YOU think the D is going to save the season? Yes, I AM PISSED right now BUT, I have to still have faith because...I AM STILL A FAN!

Take your MOD BS in another direction - Your opinion means nothing to me!
Holy ****, I thought the first post was satire. "Keep in mind Eagles, Bengals, Bills." Wtf does that returd shit mean? The Eagles have allowed the 20th most points in the league and lost to the Jets. Buffalo lost to the shitty Jets too and the shitty Patriots. They've scored a whopping 20 ppg over there last 5 games. Cincy has played better, but Chase might be hurt and even if he's not our DBs will shut him down.

You're stupid ass doesn't think this D can carry this team? Why? Cuz your a butt sucking turd biscuit? Go give your boyfriend a hug and calm down.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:18 AM   #6392
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That chart does show that Moore is absolutely garbage and shouldn't be getting anywhere near the workload he does. He can't make contested catches. He can't separate. He can't run crisp routes. Why is he still getting 30+ snaps a game while Toney and Hardman sit on the benches with their dicks in their hands? It's nonsensical.
I mean the chart also says that Justin Watson is better than Ja'Marr Chase at...everything.

Sometimes charts like this get a little too cute and oftentimes you can tell by the outcomes. I mean Amon-Ra St. Brown is essentially a poor mans Darius Slayton by that chart. Rashid Shaheed is Justin Jefferson.

We may wanna tap the brakes juuuuuuust a little bit there.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:21 AM   #6393
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Chase is facing better corners and has a higher volume of targets. If Watson had that volume his grade would go down.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:26 AM   #6394
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Kadarius Toney was our best WR at separation in week 1. Then he stopped getting snaps as the season went on.

They need to focus the offense on Kelce, Rice, Toney an and Pacheco/McKinnon in January. All the others are 1-2 targets a game max
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:26 AM   #6395
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I mean the chart also says that Justin Watson is better than Ja'Marr Chase at...everything.

Sometimes charts like this get a little too cute and oftentimes you can tell by the outcomes. I mean Amon-Ra St. Brown is essentially a poor mans Darius Slayton by that chart. Rashid Shaheed is Justin Jefferson.

We may wanna tap the brakes juuuuuuust a little bit there.
At least with Moore we have actually seen it in real time. I have never seen Mahomes visibly frustrated at any single player more often than he is with Moore. Both losses this year Moore effectively slammed the door on our chances by dropping very catchable balls on 4th. Mahomes has literally had to throw multiple balls into the dirt because Moore was the only read and didn't do his job correctly. Calling him the CEH of WRs is a massive slight to CEH since all he is is a below league average back eating carries in a RBBC. Moore up to this point has been a detriment in every phase of the game he touches.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:26 AM   #6396
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:33 AM   #6397
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Look at all the names people were banging the table for at the deadline being right around MVS and Rice.
In the case of Hopkins he's never been a separation guy. He's always been a guy that makes catches no matter how well he's covered. Ours don't.
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This team has lost 5 games total over the past season and a half. Skyy Moore was directly involved in losing 4 of those games with his rotten play.

Muffing 2 punts in Indianapolis.

Running an incredibly poor route that allowed the Bills DB to make the game sealing interception.

Dropping a 4th and long pass that hit him in the hands against Detroit.

Dropping another 4th down pass into the end zone against the Broncos.

I cannot fathom what he's showing in practice that Reid finds so enthralling but none of it transfers to game time. He's a jack of no trades.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:34 AM   #6399
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In the case of Hopkins he's never been a separation guy. He's always been a guy that makes catches no matter how well he's covered. Ours don't.
I was told adamantly that Hopkins separates a few weeks ago.

And when do our guys get those opportunities?
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At least with Moore we have actually seen it in real time. I have never seen Mahomes visibly frustrated at any single player more often than he is with Moore. Both losses this year Moore effectively slammed the door on our chances by dropping very catchable balls on 4th. Mahomes has literally had to throw multiple balls into the dirt because Moore was the only read and didn't do his job correctly. Calling him the CEH of WRs is a massive slight to CEH since all he is is a below league average back eating carries in a RBBC. Moore up to this point has been a detriment in every phase of the game he touches.
As Moore Hater In Chief, even I didn't expect him to be THIS bad.

I figured 'disappointing 2nd round pick; 4th round sort of production - average football player who neither brings anything nor takes anything from the table...'

But yeah, he's just a ****ing dumpster fire. That said, SOMEONE'S gonna have to perform with those reps. We can't just say "oh thank God, Moore is gone" and move on with our lives.

Hardman, Toney and/or James need to step into the role that's been vacated by the Moore mercy-killing.
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Moore's snaps have cratered. That experiment is over.
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I was told adamantly that Hopkins separates a few weeks ago.

And when do our guys get those opportunities?
MVS had an opportunity last game on a big throw. And i mean we have the most drops in the league. Guys are getting opportunities. Just not capitalizing on them.
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MVS had an opportunity last game on a big throw. And i mean we have the most drops in the league. Guys are getting opportunities. Just not capitalizing on them.
That's true. MVS just isn't good.
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I remember before the year that I said MVS would have more yards than Toney and Moore. People were very upset.
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Old 11-09-2023, 12:05 PM   #6405
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That's true. MVS just isn't good.
You could draft a guy like Trey Palmer (6 ft/192 lbs/4.33 speed), who went in the 6th rd, and get similar production as MVS this year.

Feels like a lot of us went a bit overboard on the outlier performance in the championship game. It was an outlier for a reason.
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