Chiefs ****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread**** - Page 371

Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

**RealSNR** · 10-31-2023, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Winning the SB last year kinda lets Veach off the hook for trading Hill, but in hindsight he should've been paid his asking price.

Nah I’m good. Don’t want Hill on the team.

Would rather have cap room and Karlaftis/McDuffie, whichever one was selected with the dolphins pick.

staylor26 · 10-31-2023, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Winning the SB last year kinda lets Veach off the hook for trading Hill, but in hindsight he should've been paid his asking price.

Holy ****. I knew staying away this week was probably the best option.

Should've known the levels of reeruned would be this high.

O.city · 10-31-2023, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

So i guess he was at the World Series in Texas on Friday. Got Sick Saturday. When you have a game in Denver on Sunday.

That seems very odd to me. Yeah, yeah, he's amazing and he's young and has a life and all that....

But being at a Baseball game Friday night when you have a game to play in another state on Sunday seems odd to me.

They've won what they've won, it's hard to keep the edge forever. Shit happens.

I wasn't a fan of it when I saw the WS stuff either. Kinda surprised Andy was ok with it.

RunKC · 10-31-2023, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Holy ****. I knew staying away this week was probably the best option.

Should've known the levels of reeruned would be this high.

Welcome back bud. We lost and looked terrible so overreaction planet is back baby!

O.city · 10-31-2023, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Nah I’m good. Don’t want Hill on the team.

Would rather have cap room and Karlaftis/McDuffie, whichever one was selected with the dolphins pick.

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Holy ****. I knew staying away this week was probably the best option.

Should've known the levels of reeruned would be this high.

I get it, but there's some validity to the "just keep elite players and deal with the rest" stuff.

I'm kinda on the side of trading him for that price, but could be talked into it.

ToxSocks · 10-31-2023, 10:00 AM

Yeah, i'd rather have kept Hill. Oh well.

O.city · 10-31-2023, 10:03 AM

They won with the group they had last year, but also got like 10 TD's from a RB catching passes out of the backfield.

Mecca · 10-31-2023, 10:06 AM

It isn't that Hill got traded, yes it sucks trading one of the best playmakers in the game, it's that we haven't replaced playmakers.

We're getting old and not adding new playmakers to replace them.

-King- · 10-31-2023, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yeah, i'd rather have kept Hill. Oh well.

The team could be essentially the same except we likely wouldn't have Mcduffie. But then we could have used our first this year on Porter jr...

Would have Tyreek, Rice, and Kelce on offense. But we'd also lose Skyy Moore

chiefzilla1501 · 10-31-2023, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

So, the argument is that the All-22 shows open receivers, but they are in the wrong place or Mahomes is focusing on a different progression order? The Clowns are the ones that fail to see Mahomes is struggling and is PART of the problem. The WR and QB play are both an issue and they need both to get better, and Mahomes as the GOAT plays a big role in that happening. If it's just the WR's, then Mahomes is no different than a 1st pick QB going to a shitty franchise with little talent and struggling and failing. Mahomes will figure it out as well as the receivers, and with this defense, it will be a good year.

Mahomes and reid need to be better. But of course there will be more excuses when they are working around a WR group that has been maybe the worst in the league. The root cause is bad wr play and Reid and mahomes underperforming are symptoms.

When mahomes does trust his WRs, they make mistakes - key drops, bad adjustments, badly missing their spots. When he doesn't trust them he presses. And when teams like Denver throw a spy on him he can't just bail. If you're going to ask him to take what he's given these WRs can't be messing up. Tiny mistakes are drive killers if we're going to be an efficient offense. And efficient offenses have to be capped up with red zone effectiveness which we don't have right now

I mean, we all agree that skyy/toney/mvs have been flat out bad regardless of mahomes. Why can't we just start there and say maybe we should adjust our rotation. I want talent but right now all i want is consistency and reliability so we can get into some damn rhythm.

jd1020 · 10-31-2023, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Trust/consistency whatever we wanna call it.

Here is every third down pass vs Denver, paused at the first hitch of the dropback. Every single route - sans the screen - is into such tight windows. pic.twitter.com/JVEECqXaRQ
— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) October 31, 2023

I dont know about those all being tight. The play after the screen (35 seconds), is that MVS running deep on the bottom? His defender is beat and not just beat he is ****ing burned, both defenders were defending the underneath route and MVS runs right by them, and Mahomes is looking in that direction.

O.city · 10-31-2023, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

The team could be essentially the same except we likely wouldn't have Mcduffie. But then we could have used our first this year on Porter jr...

Would have Tyreek, Rice, and Kelce on offense. But we'd also lose Skyy Moore

You'd not have Justin Reid and probably no Juwann Taylor.

DJ's left nut · 10-31-2023, 10:16 AM

Question:

Grapes missed Adams on two EASY deep shots last night. Both of them were long TDs, the latter a walk-in.

Should Adams stop running the routes because 'he doesn't trust Grapes to make the throw...'? Would we be making excuses for him if he did?

Worry. About. You.

Run your route - if he misses the throw, he misses the throw. Make your read, fire your pass - if the guy drops it, he drops it.

You just cannot succeed out there worrying about everyone else doing their job. Because that's going to snowball into the comedy of errors we saw on Sunday.

staylor26 · 10-31-2023, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You'd not have Justin Reid and probably no Juwann Taylor.

And no Omenihu.

But essentially the same team!!

Mecca · 10-31-2023, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Question:

Grapes missed Adams on two EASY deep shots last night. Both of them were long TDs, the latter a walk-in.

Should Adams stop running the routes because 'he doesn't trust Grapes to make the throw...'? Would we be making excuses for him if he did?

Worry. About. You.

Run your route - if he misses the throw, he misses the throw. Make your read, fire your pass - if the guy drops it, he drops it.

You just cannot succeed out there worrying about everyone else doing their job. Because that's going to snowball into the comedy of errors we saw on Sunday.

Adams is so visibly annoyed with that team, he looks like he wishes he could just off Jimmy and McDaniels.

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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-620901	Question: Grapes missed Adams on two EASY deep shots last night. Both of them were long TDs, the latter a walk-in. Should Adams stop running the routes because 'he doesn't trust Grapes to make the throw...'? Would we be making excuses for him if he did? Worry. About. You. Run your route - if he misses the throw, he misses the throw. Make your read, fire your pass - if the guy drops it, he drops it. You just cannot succeed out there worrying about everyone else doing their job. Because that's going to snowball into the comedy of errors we saw on Sunday. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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