Football Jim Irsay wants instant replay on all calls, including penalties, in last 2 minutes - Page 3

Sassy Squatch · 10-25-2023, 07:18 AM

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**DaFace** · 10-25-2023, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The NHL was falling into that trap a few years back.

The offside rule was being used to disallow goals that were just clear goals and worse, they were getting hypertechnical in their enforcement. I was seeing a goal/wk being waved off because a player that was onside didn't have his skate on the ice due to a cross step or something and as a consequence was deemed to have not 'established' in the zone yet.

Fortunately they changed that particular aspect of the rule but there are still occasional ticky tack offsides reviews that are ancillary to the goal. To try to address those, I believe the NHL makes it a minor penalty now to request an offsides review on a goal if it's not overturned.

It just makes the product so much worse.

I wonder if escalating the "punishment" for being wrong would work in the NFL. Losing a TO is a pretty mild slap on the wrist, but maybe if you also got a 15-yard penalty for being wrong or something, that would deter coaches from challenging unless it truly is an obvious call.

DJ's left nut · 10-25-2023, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I wonder if escalating the "punishment" for being wrong would work in the NFL. Losing a TO is a pretty mild slap on the wrist, but maybe if you also got a 15-yard penalty for being wrong or something, that would deter coaches from challenging unless it truly is an obvious call.

I'd be willing to try it.

Then again, I typically appreciate Brandon Staley torching his timeouts on fruitless review efforts so it's not the worst thing in the world...

And it still wouldn't quite address the underlying problem in that the NFL is just over-officiated.

Red Dawg · 10-25-2023, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Pretty nifty conundrum for Goodell here. What do you do when your boss is the one openly calling out the refs for their incompetence.

Like Goodell gives a shit. He has a contact that they must pay worth a gozillion bucks. Do you realize Goodell is damn near a billionaire.

AdolfOliverBush · 10-25-2023, 09:46 AM

As long as instant replays are used, teams should always have an opportunity to view a replay on the big screen before the next play is run. No more rushed or missed challenges just because the offense is trying to hurry to the line to snap the ball.

irafreak · 10-25-2023, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Maybe it's because the Chiefs are just good now and we're past the whole "yell about officiating" thing, but I'm at the point to where......it's over officiated and it's a hard gig.

They get them right the vast majority of the time and it's just the human element of it. I think they could dial it back a bit but **** man, it's a hard thing to ask these guys to do. Things happen fast.

Anyone that upset about it, I would recommend they go volunteer to officiate some pee wee football.

They don't even have to ref peewee, just go watch volleyball and sit there and see when the ball is in, out, or on the line. I often film my daughters playing and I will swear the ball that landed right in front of me was out and then I look at the replay and it was in. The eyes are deceiving at such high speeds.

irafreak · 10-25-2023, 10:05 AM

Also I think we should just throw out everything but the last 2 minutes of the game since apparently all games are won or lost in those final two minutes because the refs are bad.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-25-2023, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by irafreak

Also I think we should just throw out everything but the last 2 minutes of the game since apparently all games are won or lost in those final two minutes because the refs are bad.

They aren't "bad". They are doing what they are paid/instructed to do. At that they're doing phenomenal

KC_Lee · 10-25-2023, 10:31 AM

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**PHOG** · 10-25-2023, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

It doesn't help that players constantly whine for flags after every play.

This should be a penalty iiself.

RINGLEADER · 10-25-2023, 11:05 AM

I wouldn’t mind letting an “eye in the sky” ref out clearly wrong calls with a veto of what the refs on the field call. At the very least during the playoffs. The uncatchable PI call was atrocious and if the refs on the field can’t call it right it should be corrected. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen face mask and horse collar or roughing the passer flags thrown and not thrown when they should and shouldn’t be called.

RINGLEADER · 10-25-2023, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I wonder if escalating the "punishment" for being wrong would work in the NFL. Losing a TO is a pretty mild slap on the wrist, but maybe if you also got a 15-yard penalty for being wrong or something, that would deter coaches from challenging unless it truly is an obvious call.

Interesting…..

But I think the issue is the non-reviewable calls that are clearly clearly wrong. Getting it more right than wrong should be the goal of course.

FlaChief58 · 10-25-2023, 11:16 AM

If they start holding them accountable by fining or suspending refs for blatantly wrong calls, there won't be a need to slow the game down even more.

**RockChalk** · 10-25-2023, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

And for god's sake, get the refs bigger monitors to view replays with. They would be better off looking at the stadium screens than the little pieces of shit they use now.

I was just talking about this with some friends during the game on Sunday. Just like they have for medical tents on each side, they really should just set up something similar for replay review. Have a little tent with a 36-40 inch tv in each one (1 on the 20 yard line of visitor / and one on the home side). Instead they stare at a Surface for 2 minutes trying to make out details on some 9 inch screen. I still suspect they aren't really looking at anything other than deciding what pornhub video they'll hit up after the game and that NY is actually reviewing and telling them how to rule.

DRM08 · 10-25-2023, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Not sure why anyone thinks it would fix anything. Replay often doesn't get it right. See the "fumble" replay from the Chiefs game Sunday. Clearly not a catch so couldn't be a fumble, but review upheld the call.

If anything, this would give the NFL more levers to pull in their quest for story lines.

You provided a good example with Blake Bell. He never had control of that ball, and somehow the morons still ruled it a fumble after looking at it. SMH

Chief Pagan · 10-25-2023, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by irafreak

Also I think we should just throw out everything but the last 2 minutes of the game since apparently all games are won or lost in those final two minutes because the refs are bad.

I watch most NBA playoff games that are on YouTube TV.

Meaning, I will at least slide the bar over and watch the last five minutes and laugh at how bad the reffing is...

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