Jim Irsay wants instant replay on all calls, including penalties, in last 2 minutes

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— Jim Irsay (@JimIrsay) October 25, 2023

[Hawker007]

How many times has Gene been talking about a call and you are sitting there wondering what the heck he is seeing as it's not what we are seeing? The refs stand up for each other. I'd love to see a random fan of the team getting hosed by a call on the broadcast to argue with Gene and his rational for a shitty call.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Sounds like a great recipe for an NBA-like fan experience, watching a final 2 minutes that are 30 minutes of people standing around

On TV and especially at the stadium, the fan experience has been substantially diminished over the years because of how over-officiated the game has become.

Big play? Do you celebrate? Not yet - you immediately scan the field for a flag. Close TD - get fired up? Slow down, my friend - we still need to wait for a replay. Big hit? Eh, just presume that's being penalized.

The problem is now expectation. Fans (and players) have come to EXPECT officials to bail them out. To prevent big plays or create them through penalty. To end drives or continue them. And then you have anger when it DOESN'T happen.

The league needs fewer flags. SIGNIFICANTLY fewer flags.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

On TV and especially at the stadium, the fan experience has been substantially diminished over the years because of how over-officiated the game has become.

Big play? Do you celebrate? Not yet - you immediately scan the field for a flag. Close TD - get fired up? Slow down, my friend - we still need to wait for a replay. Big hit? Eh, just presume that's being penalized.

The problem is now expectation. Fans (and players) have come to EXPECT officials to bail them out. To prevent big plays or create them through penalty. To end drives or continue them. And then you have anger when it DOESN'T happen.

The league needs fewer flags. SIGNIFICANTLY fewer flags.

It doesn't help that players constantly whine for flags after every play.

[Wallcrawler]

In other news, Jim Irsay would like unlimited booze and pills in his suite.

[wachashi]

Replay reviews should take no more than 30 seconds. If the league can figure out how to do that consistently, I would be open to the idea of more reviews in the final two minutes. As it is, long reviews, unnecessary rules analysts, incompetent refs, and breaking for commercials every 2 minutes have made the sport objectively less entertaining.

[AdolfOliverBush]

And for god's sake, get the refs bigger monitors to view replays with. They would be better off looking at the stadium screens than the little pieces of shit they use now.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

On TV and especially at the stadium, the fan experience has been substantially diminished over the years because of how over-officiated the game has become.

Big play? Do you celebrate? Not yet - you immediately scan the field for a flag. Close TD - get fired up? Slow down, my friend - we still need to wait for a replay. Big hit? Eh, just presume that's being penalized.

The problem is now expectation. Fans (and players) have come to EXPECT officials to bail them out. To prevent big plays or create them through penalty. To end drives or continue them. And then you have anger when it DOESN'T happen.

The league needs fewer flags. SIGNIFICANTLY fewer flags.

The same thing is happening in the Premier League.

Fans complain that you can't celebrate a goal anymore because the video assistant referee may disallow it for someone being offside by an eyelash. The accuracy of the technology is actually too much and it deflates the experience in the stadium especially.

The VAR officials are only supposed to take action if there's a clear and obvious error, but often on things like penalties they go from totally missing clear and obvious errors to overturning things that are judgement calls.

It's not just the NFL having an issue with over-officiating, it's a lot of sports

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Replay reviews should take no more than 30 seconds. If the league can figure out how to do that consistently, I would be open to the idea of more reviews in the final two minutes. As it is, long reviews, unnecessary rules analysts, incompetent refs, and breaking for commercials every 2 minutes have made the sport objectively less entertaining.

True.

Otherwise there is no reason to watch games, just the last two minutes.....like NCAA basketball.


Those last two minutes could take 20.

[AdolfOliverBush]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

True.

Otherwise there is no reason to watch games, just the last two minutes.....like NCAA basketball.


Those last two minutes could take 20.

That could be fixed by making an intentional foul = 2 points and the ball for the team that was fouled. Harsh, but would speed the game up.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

The same thing is happening in the Premier League.

Fans complain that you can't celebrate a goal anymore because the video assistant referee may disallow it for someone being offside by an eyelash. The accuracy of the technology is actually too much and it deflates the experience in the stadium especially.

The VAR officials are only supposed to take action if there's a clear and obvious error, but often on things like penalties they go from totally missing clear and obvious errors to overturning things that are judgement calls.

It's not just the NFL having an issue with over-officiating, it's a lot of sports

Gotta imagine sports betting plays a big role.

[loochy]

I'm fine with the current challenge system. But yeah, I think ANY call should be a candidate for review.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Hawker007

How many times has Gene been talking about a call and you are sitting there wondering what the heck he is seeing as it's not what we are seeing? The refs stand up for each other. I'd love to see a random fan of the team getting hosed by a call on the broadcast to argue with Gene and his rational for a shitty call.

Right! I have noticed that a lot of times these former refs that they ask about a particular call almost always side with the refs call on the field, even if it appears to be incorrect.

[DaFace]

I'm fine with expanding reviews, but I wish they would lean more into the old "clear and obvious" version of it rather than slowing things down to 1000 fps and looking for differences in 1mm.

Something like, all replays are decided by a booth official, and they have no more than 30 seconds to look at any call, or it stays with the call on the field.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

The same thing is happening in the Premier League.

Fans complain that you can't celebrate a goal anymore because the video assistant referee may disallow it for someone being offside by an eyelash. The accuracy of the technology is actually too much and it deflates the experience in the stadium especially.

The VAR officials are only supposed to take action if there's a clear and obvious error, but often on things like penalties they go from totally missing clear and obvious errors to overturning things that are judgement calls.

It's not just the NFL having an issue with over-officiating, it's a lot of sports

The NHL was falling into that trap a few years back.

The offside rule was being used to disallow goals that were just clear goals and worse, they were getting hypertechnical in their enforcement. I was seeing a goal/wk being waved off because a player that was onside didn't have his skate on the ice due to a cross step or something and as a consequence was deemed to have not 'established' in the zone yet.

Fortunately they changed that particular aspect of the rule but there are still occasional ticky tack offsides reviews that are ancillary to the goal. To try to address those, I believe the NHL makes it a minor penalty now to request an offsides review on a goal if it's not overturned.

It just makes the product so much worse.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

That could be fixed by making an intentional foul = 2 points and the ball for the team that was fouled. Harsh, but would speed the game up.

I've never understood why that wasn't the case.

It's as 'intentional' as intentional gets. You have guys hugging players before the ball is even in-bounded. How's that not an 'intentional' foul?

Annoys the crap out of me. If you're fouling someone for the SAKE of fouling them, it should be a damn intentional foul. That's what the rule was created to avoid.

Instead they've conflated the term 'intentional' with 'egregious' and have had to go the extra step of creating an 'intentional 1 or intentional 2' based on the degree of malice involved.

Its ludicrous.