Chiefs ****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread**** - Page 321

Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

**Bearcat** · 10-23-2023, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

What does "strive to be better" even mean? Do we think they aren't trying to be better?

Quit with the veiled shit and say what you want here guys. Go trade for someone? What?

It's a god damn top 5 offense in the league. It's a top 5 defense in the league. It's potentially the best overall Chiefs team....ever?

The all time great offense of 2018 is gone. If that's what we're gonna hold up as the bar for this group, it's not gonna hit it.

Or "prepare for HoF TE to retire" when he's still capable of 150+ yard games.

Why stop at another 1000 yard receiver, maybe grab 2 or 3 in case someone gets hurt... maybe a 1000 yard rusher, too. Maybe trade for a decent backup QB like Hurts or Allen.

staylor26 · 10-23-2023, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Got tired of waiting to only show up when they lose, huh.

Noticed that too huh?

**BigRedChief** · 10-23-2023, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

This is ridiculous. He's effectively a rookie who has a particular skillset and runs a limited route tree at this point. The only guy who has truly separated from him in an apples-to-apples way is Rice and no one is surprised by that.

The dude was an undrafted FA and now is on a team that's still trying to figure itself out as the favorites to win the SB. The only real cream that has risen to the top is Rice - the rest of the grade for these receivers is very incomplete.

And I was a real pump-the-breaks guy on Ross during training camp so it's not like I've been fawning over him forever.

The endzone play was obviously designed to get the ball to him and high point the ball. Which is his strength. Reid still believes in him or he wouldn't have called that play.

OKchiefs · 10-23-2023, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Got tired of waiting to only show up when they lose, huh.

I mean, not really. I was posting yesterday during the game.

OKchiefs · 10-23-2023, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Or "prepare for HoF TE to retire" when he's still capable of 150+ yard games.

Why stop at another 1000 yard receiver, maybe grab 2 or 3 in case someone gets hurt... maybe a 1000 yard rusher, too. Maybe trade for a decent backup QB like Hurts or Allen.

Why does this have to be some big argument? Is it not a reasonable take that it would be better in both the short term and long term if we see more out of the WR group? It's also a fact that any time we've seen the offense working as expected it's been against bottom tier defenses. We've played a pretty cupcake schedule overall. How does this group do later this year against teams like Miami or Cincinnati or in the SB against SF/Philly? I certainly hope they have everything worked out and are firing on all cylinders, but it's not unreasonable to have some concern as to whether that still happens against better competition. I don't see myself or anyone else playing chicken little here, just voicing some level of concern.

And just because Kelce is capable of 150+ doesn't mean he should have to do that for the offense to function. We also saw the offense stagnate again in the 2nd half, I'm guessing the defense adjusted to take away those wide open looks he was getting in the 2nd quarter (played more man?) and we saw the results. I'm cautiously optimistic we'll see someone else step up over the next couple of months to become more of a go to option, hopefully it's Rice.

staylor26 · 10-23-2023, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I mean, not really. I was posting yesterday during the game.

You always post/bitch during the game.

But when they win, you usually disappear after.

OKchiefs · 10-23-2023, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You always post/bitch during the game.

But when they win, you usually disappear after.

Didn't really do much bitching at all yesterday, but I'm aware that i've had that habit and I'm trying to fix that. So back to this subject, I don't think I'm coming out with any unreasonable takes today.

O.city · 10-23-2023, 08:57 AM

"We shouldn't be relying on the HOF best tight end of all time".

Yes, they'll have to worry about replacing Kelce. Doesn't seem like that's something to wrry about right now though.

TwistedChief · 10-23-2023, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Didn't really do much bitching at all yesterday, but I'm aware that i've had that habit and I'm trying to fix that. So back to this subject, I don't think I'm coming out with any unreasonable takes today.

You’re not.

You’re just usually hyper-negative and your keyboard appears to have been taken over remotely by zilla as you’re making the exact same points he has every 3hrs in this thread for the last 7 weeks.

That’s all.

staylor26 · 10-23-2023, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

You’re not.

You’re just usually hyper-negative and your keyboard appears to have been taken over remotely by zilla as you’re making the exact same points he has every 3hrs in this thread for the last 7 weeks.

That’s all.

This. Just because you sound less whiny doesn't mean you aren't still bitching, and repeating the same shit that's been said over and over already.

WilliamTheIrish · 10-23-2023, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

"We shouldn't be relying on the HOF best tight end of all time".

Yes, they'll have to worry about replacing Kelce. Doesn't seem like that's something to wrry about right now though.

And the usual suspects will bitch to the high heavens that when we draft/trade for (whatever TE) “he isn’t as good” as the time great HOF player.

RunKC · 10-23-2023, 09:21 AM

I'd like to sign Hardman to a $7-8 million ish contract ideally. Cut MVS bc he's only $2 million dead money with a $12 million cap savings...and he isn't anywhere near worth $14 million.

So Toney, Hardman, Rice, Skyy, Ross and Watson in 2024 pre draft ideally. Wouldn't spend a 1st on a WR unless the value was really good.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-23-2023, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

You’re not.

You’re just usually hyper-negative and your keyboard appears to have been taken over remotely by zilla as you’re making the exact same points he has every 3hrs in this thread for the last 7 weeks.

That’s all.

Everybody is posting the “exact same points” every 3 hours

O.city · 10-23-2023, 09:24 AM

The issue is, today's 14 million dollars is yesterdays 7 in terms of NFL WR contracts.

I wouldn't pay MVS that and it's too much of a savings to move on for sure. Hardman could probably be kept around for 6-7 million. I'd trade out those 2 pretty easily.

They do need another big time talent in the room though.

TwistedChief · 10-23-2023, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Everybody is posting the “exact same points” every 3 hours

Nah. Some of us are here for an honest progress report after the game - I count you amongst them even though we have differing levels of patience with these WRs - and others have a desperate agenda and manufacture/invent stats to support their narrative.

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10-23-2023, 09:24 AM	#4814
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-525936	The issue is, today's 14 million dollars is yesterdays 7 in terms of NFL WR contracts. I wouldn't pay MVS that and it's too much of a savings to move on for sure. Hardman could probably be kept around for 6-7 million. I'd trade out those 2 pretty easily. They do need another big time talent in the room though.
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