Chiefs ****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread**** - Page 320

Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

O.city · 10-23-2023, 07:52 AM

Toney's toe is either an issue or they're just not comfortable with him.

**dirk digler** · 10-23-2023, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyy God

They’re not picking up his 5th year option.

Makes sense to develop other younger, cheaper receivers.

Looking like it. That pre season injury definitely derailed him

Eleazar · 10-23-2023, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Oh man. So he IS getting snaps, just not doing much with them.

Snaps are just one metric. Obviously a player not being on the field tells you something, but it doesn't tell us about the play type or design, or what the player's chance truly was to catch a pass on any of their snaps.

crispystl · 10-23-2023, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Mahomes on pace for 4800 yards

Major receivers are on pacer for :

Kelce 1275
Rice 741
Watson 531
MVS 486
Moore 389
Toney 255
Everyone else 1297 yards

Compared to last year:
Kelce 1338
Ju-Ju 933
MVS 687
Watson 315
Hardman 297
Moore 250
Toney 171
Everyone else 1253

Same as last year, this offense does fine without having dominant WRs. I've been saying this all year, yet here we are more than 4700 posts later. Mahomes still don't care.

Is Rice going to come on at the end of the seaosn and break 1k?

Sassy Squatch · 10-23-2023, 07:58 AM

Hmm. Hardman actually took snaps from Toney it seems. Toney took 25 and 30 the past 2 games, then dropped to 13 while Hardman got 11. MVS Rice and Moore still lead the room.

Skyy God · 10-23-2023, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by crispystl

Is Rice going to come on at the end of the seaosn and break 1k?

He’d have to average 70 yards per game. More if we’re resting starters in week 18.

I say no.

TwistedChief · 10-23-2023, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If he's not getting reps/snaps/targets with this group, what leads us to believe he'll get more next year after they potentially add more to the room?

Because he'll have had more time to get used to the system and they'll have gained more trust in him?

The guy's a rookie.

O.city · 10-23-2023, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Because he'll have had more time to get used to the system and they'll have gained more trust in him?

The guy's a rookie.

They've had the guy for 2 years in the building.

Guess we will see if they draft or add more.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-23-2023, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Snaps yesterday (%) (previous game %)

MVS - 47 (69%) (56%)
Moore - 41 (60%) (52%)
Rice - 40 (59%) (49%)
Ross - 17 (25%) (14%)
Toney - 13 (19%) (42%)
Hardman - 11 (16%) (n/a)

I wonder what it looked like by half. It looked to me like rashee got a lot of first half action. But I didn’t see him as much in the second half.

OKchiefs · 10-23-2023, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Mahomes on pace for 4800 yards

Major receivers are on pacer for :

Kelce 1275
Rice 741
Watson 531
MVS 486
Moore 389
Toney 255
Everyone else 1297 yards

Compared to last year:
Kelce 1338
Ju-Ju 933
MVS 687
Watson 315
Hardman 297
Moore 250
Toney 171
Everyone else 1253

Same as last year, this offense does fine without having dominant WRs. I've been saying this all year, yet here we are more than 4700 posts later. Mahomes still don't care.

Except he does have a dominant WR, his name is Kelce and he just so happens to be in a TEs body. Some of us just don't want to see KC absolutely have to rely on him to get 10+ catches for the offense to work. Kelce clearly is still able to be dominant, but wouldn't it be nice to have another option or two to share some of the load? Rice clearly looks to be heading in that direction. It would be nice if someone else stepped up as another reliable option. I've been one of Moore's biggest detractors, but if he could just get a consistent 3-5 catches a game in key moments he would be a valuable asset to the team.

Also, just because the offense "does fine" (in several games it has not done fine) does that mean "fine" is all we should strive for? Shouldn't KC also be preparing for the time when Kelce is no longer here? I hope that isn't any time soon, but nobody can know when that is for sure. Kelce has already been banged up several times this year, the injury issues are likely going to become more common at his age. You can't deny the fact that this offense is a shell of itself if Kelce isn't available for whatever reason.

KC can win a super bowl with this team, it doesn't mean they shouldn't strive for being even better. It's ridiculous to blame those who want to see more out of the WR group. One good quarter from the offense does not negate the numerous bad quarters we've seen.

staylor26 · 10-23-2023, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Except he does have a dominant WR, his name is Kelce and he just so happens to be in a TEs body. Some of us just don't want to see KC absolutely have to rely on him to get 10+ catches for the offense to work. Kelce clearly is still able to be dominant, but wouldn't it be nice to have another option or two to share some of the load? Rice clearly looks to be heading in that direction. It would be nice if someone else stepped up as another reliable option. I've been one of Moore's biggest detractors, but if he could just get a consistent 3-5 catches a game in key moments he would be a valuable asset to the team.

Also, just because the offense "does fine" (in several games it has not done fine) does that mean "fine" is all we should strive for? Shouldn't KC also be preparing for the time when Kelce is no longer here? I hope that isn't any time soon, but nobody can know when that is for sure. Kelce has already been banged up several times this year, the injury issues are likely going to become more common at his age. You can't deny the fact that this offense is a shell of itself if Kelce isn't available for whatever reason.

KC can win a super bowl with this team, it doesn't mean they shouldn't strive for being even better. It's ridiculous to blame those who want to see more out of the WR group. One good quarter from the offense does not negate the numerous bad quarters we've seen.

Shut up, bitch.

OKchiefs · 10-23-2023, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They've had the guy for 2 years in the building.

Guess we will see if they draft or add more.

You act like year 1 he was able to do much at all. He was an IR, there are restrictions on what he could do.

**Bob Dole** · 10-23-2023, 08:25 AM

SHKREEEEEEEE!

O.city · 10-23-2023, 08:26 AM

What does "strive to be better" even mean? Do we think they aren't trying to be better?

Quit with the veiled shit and say what you want here guys. Go trade for someone? What?

It's a god damn top 5 offense in the league. It's a top 5 defense in the league. It's potentially the best overall Chiefs team....ever?

The all time great offense of 2018 is gone. If that's what we're gonna hold up as the bar for this group, it's not gonna hit it.

**Bearcat** · 10-23-2023, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Except he does have a dominant WR, his name is Kelce and he just so happens to be in a TEs body. Some of us just don't want to see KC absolutely have to rely on him to get 10+ catches for the offense to work. Kelce clearly is still able to be dominant, but wouldn't it be nice to have another option or two to share some of the load? Rice clearly looks to be heading in that direction. It would be nice if someone else stepped up as another reliable option. I've been one of Moore's biggest detractors, but if he could just get a consistent 3-5 catches a game in key moments he would be a valuable asset to the team.

Also, just because the offense "does fine" (in several games it has not done fine) does that mean "fine" is all we should strive for? Shouldn't KC also be preparing for the time when Kelce is no longer here? I hope that isn't any time soon, but nobody can know when that is for sure. Kelce has already been banged up several times this year, the injury issues are likely going to become more common at his age. You can't deny the fact that this offense is a shell of itself if Kelce isn't available for whatever reason.

KC can win a super bowl with this team, it doesn't mean they shouldn't strive for being even better. It's ridiculous to blame those who want to see more out of the WR group. One good quarter from the offense does not negate the numerous bad quarters we've seen.

Got tired of waiting to only show up when they lose, huh.

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10-23-2023, 08:26 AM	#4799
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-525936	What does "strive to be better" even mean? Do we think they aren't trying to be better? Quit with the veiled shit and say what you want here guys. Go trade for someone? What? It's a god damn top 5 offense in the league. It's a top 5 defense in the league. It's potentially the best overall Chiefs team....ever? The all time great offense of 2018 is gone. If that's what we're gonna hold up as the bar for this group, it's not gonna hit it.
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