****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[Chris Meck]

Yeah, we're winning, utilizing all three phases of the game, and getting better every week, but it's not how I like to win - Megatron

[staylor26]

I thought Skyy had maybe his best game and should've had a big TD.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

And that was the worst passing defense in the league, both in raw stats, that you and TC seem to love, and in DVOA or any weighted stats you can find.

PS - how are they the worst in the league?

Please provide where you see they are for DVOA because I'm fairly confident you've made this up to support your argument.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, I already said they looked better today, both in the GDT and Denver's "level-headed review."

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Offense looked a little better today.

Yeah, you really talked them up bigtime. Nearly 500 total yards is just a little better.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Utter human shit.

Hope Mahomes marches into Brett’s office tomorrow and demands to beat Burrow’s deal.

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[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Yeah, you really talked them up bigtime. Nearly 500 total yards is just a little better.

this ****ing guy, man.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

PS - how are they the worst in the league?

Please provide where you see they are for DVOA because I'm fairly confident you've made this up to support your argument.

I know you weren't asking me, but since Megatron will not because he'd have to admit he's full of shit, the Chargers defense was ranked 24th.

and that's yards; so you know Megatron will chuckle about how that doesn't matter, so they're also 25th in EPA (you know he'd be using that as his measuring stick if it was 32nd and have a dissertation about how that's the true measure).

Oh, and in points? 23rd.

So no, not the worst in the league, not even close.

More like the sort of defense KC usually puts on the field. So he should love it!

[chiefzilla1501]

Get us to a point where we don’t rely on kelce for a million targets and a lebron like usage. I feel like we’re close. But we’re not there yet. Today was damn good progress.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I know you weren't asking me, but since Megatron will not because he'd have to admit he's full of shit, the Chargers defense was ranked 24th.

and that's yards; so you know Megatron will chuckle about how that doesn't matter, so they're also 25th in EPA (you know he'd be using that as his measuring stick if it was 32nd and have a dissertation about how that's the true measure).

Oh, and in points? 23rd.

So no, not the worst in the league, not even close.

More like the sort of defense KC usually puts on the field. So he should love it!

Yup. And to answer my own question: they were 21st in pass defense DVOA.

So 3rd quartile.

But he just makes stuff up. And then others follow him blindly because it supports the narrative they're just desperate to cling to:

zilla: "We played the worst pass offense in football today."

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Get us to a point where we don’t rely on kelce for a million targets and a lebron like usage. I feel like we’re close. But we’re not there yet. Today was damn good progress.

I've got news for you, bro.

Kelce's one of the best players in football. He's going to get a ton of targets because he's open A LOT. Money in the bank.

That's going to be true until it's not any longer. And father time is undefeated, but it ain't going to suddenly catch them unawares in the next 4 months.

It's not like a running back, where there's a short career expectancy. You save nothing by trying to limit his usage.

He gets so open, it looks like broken coverage like ten times a damned game. He's unreal. So yeah, he's going to get a lot of targets.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Get us to a point where we don’t rely on kelce for a million targets and a lebron like usage. I feel like we’re close. But we’re not there yet. Today was damn good progress.

I just …

[cdcox]

Mahomes on pace for 4800 yards

Major receivers are on pacer for :

Kelce 1275
Rice 741
Watson 531
MVS 486
Moore 389
Toney 255
Everyone else 1297 yards

Compared to last year:
Kelce 1338
Ju-Ju 933
MVS 687
Watson 315
Hardman 297
Moore 250
Toney 171
Everyone else 1253

Same as last year, this offense does fine without having dominant WRs. I've been saying this all year, yet here we are more than 4700 posts later. Mahomes still don't care.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I've got news for you, bro.

Kelce's one of the best players in football. He's going to get a ton of targets because he's open A LOT. Money in the bank.

That's going to be true until it's not any longer. And father time is undefeated, but it ain't going to suddenly catch them unawares in the next 4 months.

It's not like a running back, where there's a short career expectancy. You save nothing by trying to limit his usage.

He gets so open, it looks like broken coverage like ten times a damned game. He's unreal. So yeah, he's going to get a lot of targets.

Yeah of course kelce is a machine. But we can’t revolve our entire passing game around kelce getting 10 targets in the first half. We’ve seen over most games we have success with kelce early and then struggle on pass offense once defenses find a way to neutralize him. And once you neutralize him you gotta have weapons to capitalize. And until that happens we’ve had most games where we have an incredible opening script and then stalls once defenses find out how to neutralize kelce.

We’ve yet to show consistency getting in rhythm once we go off script. That’s where you want to see the pass offense evolve.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yeah of course kelce is a machine. But we can’t revolve our entire passing game around kelce getting 10 targets in the first half. We’ve seen over most games we have success with kelce early and then struggle on pass offense once defenses find a way to neutralize him. And once you neutralize him you gotta have weapons to capitalize. And until that happens we’ve had most games where we have an incredible opening script and then stalls once defenses find out how to neutralize kelce.

We’ve yet to show consistency getting in rhythm once we go off script. That’s where you want to see the pass offense evolve.

Dude, he got ten targets because he was WIDE OPEN. Like in the way only he seems to be able to consistently do.

So **** yeah, you're going to throw him the ball. The WR's had 180 yards or something today. And two TD's. I think it's okay.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yeah of course kelce is a machine. But we can’t revolve our entire passing game around kelce getting 10 targets in the first half. We’ve seen over most games we have success with kelce early and then struggle on pass offense once defenses find a way to neutralize him. And once you neutralize him you gotta have weapons to capitalize. And until that happens we’ve had most games where we have an incredible opening script and then stalls once defenses find out how to neutralize kelce.

We’ve yet to show consistency getting in rhythm once we go off script. That’s where you want to see the pass offense evolve.

Who gives a ****, seriously, he was open and most were uncontested catches... Are you saying Mahomes shouldn't throw it to Kelce because we need to spread it around to make reeruns on a message board feel better?