Chiefs ****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread**** - Page 305

Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

MahomesMagic · 10-17-2023, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Are we discussing who is a better receiver?

Or would you value more highly having Brown + a 6th round pick or Hardman + a 2nd round pick?

Given comfort in an offense that people don't usually just fall into, I'd take the latter many, many times over.

You wouldn't?

What do you think Veach would normally prioritize?

Id prioritize the guy who would automatically be the #1 WR here. I prioritize winning a SB over the better draft pick. Once we win the SB if he signs here long term we let go of MVS. If we don’t resign Hollywood we get a comp pick back.

BWillie · 10-17-2023, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

What in the actual **** has Hollywood Brown done in the NFL to make people think he’s worth trading for?

Christ, at least Mecole has experience and been successful in this offense and locker room.

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1,000+ yards and 6 TDs while having to play in a running offense in 2021. We are really comparing Mecole to Hollywood Brown? They aren't even in the same stratosphere. Mecole can't even get on the field for the Jets. He isn't even good. And he would STILL help this team, alot. What does that tell you? Hollywood Brown would take this team to a new level offensively.

WilliamTheIrish · 10-17-2023, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

It's the move itself. Other teams doing something and the Chiefs doing nothing. It has nothing to do with a specific player. I'm not even criticizing the team for doing nothing. More just wishing they would address it at some point and being impatient with their inactivity.

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Agressive-win now approach - When any other NFL franchise other than KC signs a veteran FA.

TwistedChief · 10-17-2023, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

Why not? Everyone is convinced that we don't have to have NFL caliber receivers because Mahomes can drag this team to the SB regardless.

If he can do that, he can certainly drag this team to the SB throwing the ball to Marvin Harrison Jr. on a team without a 1st round draft pick for 3 straight years.

Well, that sounds like the absolute stupidest way to approach team building. I might even surmise MahomesMagic, chiefzilla, and some of the other WR-or-bust crowd might think you sound like the ISIS of GM-ing. A little too extreme for here.

And second, find a single person here who thinks Mahomes inevitably drags non-NFL caliber WRs to the SB.

BWillie · 10-17-2023, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Id take both.

But Mecole produced nothing without Mahomes/Reid.

Hollywood produced with Lamar, Kyler, and now Josh Dobbs.

Brown is a much better WR. I’m fine with Mecole as an elite gadget guy.

Yeah this isn't that hard. People just have familiarity bias.

TwistedChief · 10-17-2023, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

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1,000+ yards and 6 TDs while having to play in a running offense in 2021. We are really comparing Mecole to Hollywood Brown? They aren't even in the same stratosphere. Mecole can't even get on the field for the Jets. He isn't even good. And he would STILL help this team, alot. What does that tell you? Hollywood Brown would take this team to a new level offensively.

No one is comparing Hardman to Brown.

We are comparing Hardman and a 2nd round pick to Brown and a 6th round pick. Is this hard for you to understand?

BWillie · 10-17-2023, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

No one is comparing Hardman to Brown.

We are comparing Hardman and a 2nd round pick to Brown and a 6th round pick. Is this hard for you to understand?

I don't see how we DON'T win the Super Bowl with a guy like Hollywood Brown.

If Travis Kelce was 27, I wouldn't want to do a thing. But he isn't. He's 34 years old.

We need to win now.

TwistedChief · 10-17-2023, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Id prioritize the guy who would automatically be the #1 WR here. I prioritize winning a SB over the better draft pick. Once we win the SB if he signs here long term we let go of MVS. If we don’t resign Hollywood we get a comp pick back.

So we definitely win a SB with Hollywood Brown who has a history of injuries and has amassed a grand total of a single season with over 1,000 yds? He just immediately integrates himself into the offense and we're off and running? I don't think you believe that's possible.

But if we don't sign him, we get a comp pick back the following draft. Unless of course we sign someone of comparable value in which case we get nothing back at all.

MahomesMagic · 10-17-2023, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

I don't see how we DON'T win the Super Bowl with a guy like Hollywood Brown.

If Travis Kelce was 27, I wouldn't want to do a thing. But he isn't. He's 34 years old.

We need to win now.

I think we should push to win at least 2 of the next 3 SB's.

Our window is now with Kelce aging out and Jones who might not be here next year.

That's 2 HOF players and we already traded Tyreek.

Once Mahomes has 4 rings by age 30 we can afford the few million we pushed because we won't be paying Kelce and Jones.

It's very simple salary cap logic.

TwistedChief · 10-17-2023, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

I don't see how we DON'T win the Super Bowl with a guy like Hollywood Brown.

If Travis Kelce was 27, I wouldn't want to do a thing. But he isn't. He's 34 years old.

We need to win now.

No, we don't need to win now. Sorry. This is your emotions getting the best of you. Ease up.

I'm sure Veach isn't sitting there feeling like they need to go all-in because of where Kelce is right now. Does that play some role? Absolutely. But Veach is not thinking that we need to do everything possible to figure things out this season.

He didn't last year, did he? So why do you think he feels different this year when the team is 5-1 and a whisker away from being 6-0?

Some of you are such reactionary bitches.

TwistedChief · 10-17-2023, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I think we should push to win at least 2 of the next 3 SB's.

Our window is now with Kelce aging out and Jones who might not be here next year.

Okay, dude. I'm gonna guarantee you that Veach and Mahomes disagree with you. And that's all there is to it.

Bitch and crow all you want in the meantime. I'm 10000% sure you felt the same last year before we won the SB.

MahomesMagic · 10-17-2023, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Okay, dude. I'm gonna guarantee you that Veach and Mahomes disagree with you. And that's all there is to it.

Bitch and crow all you want in the meantime. I'm 10000% sure you felt the same last year before we won the SB.

You have no idea what they are thinking, you don't represent them.

Remember, I also signed off on the same Process, Plan you did.

The difference between me and you is that I had the caveat that once the data was in a decision could be made about adding before the deadline.

Well, the data is in. This offense and the WR's that were added have largely failed in their roles.

Toney continue to be a part time player, as well as be injured often.

Skyy Moore looks like a dud.

Richie James is injured but even when he wasn't did not make a difference here.

Watson, a guy tooling around NFL practice squads was our leading WR until he got injured and barely passed by Rashee Rice.

Which brings us to Rice. The only guy looking like a possible answer but still a rookie and still not a major factor here.

So it is pretty simple to say time to make a move.

I have no idea how some of you go about your everyday lives being this stubborn.

Well, I committed to not bringing my umbrella outside so now that it is raining I ain't forking over 6 dollars to some bum selling umbrellas trying to take advantage of me! Those umbrellas only worth 4 bucks, I could have got a bigger one for the same price. I'll get soaked instead...

TwistedChief · 10-17-2023, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

You have no idea what they are thinking, you don't represent them.

Remember, I also signed off on the same Process, Plan you did.

The difference between me and you is that I had the caveat that once the data was in a decision could be made about adding before the deadline.

Well, the data is in. This offense and the WR's that were added have largely failed in their roles.

Here were the plans you signed off on last year before we won a SB:

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We have Mahomes and Reid. Of course it will be OK.

But OK isn't the standard anymore. I want another championship.

I'm not writing off the offense yet. But I am very nervous. As of now we are too easy to defend.

I want one of Burks/Olave and a Shakir added in the draft if we don't trade for a vet.

We can't afford another Mecole with our highest pick this year if we want to win the Superbowl.

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I didn't like the Tyreek Hill trade either but I am willing to wait and see what else we add.

A trade for a Cooks or Lockett would help.

If Juju is our #1 WR going into the season I will be very annoyed.

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I'm sure Mahomes is begging for a WR that has no idea how to run routes or where he is going to end up next....

Your "plan" last year sounded remarkably similar to the one from this year, so forgive Veach for telling you to go **** yourself.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 10-17-2023, 08:04 PM

I told a guy at work who hates the Chiefs that Rice is by far and away the Chiefs best WR in the absence of Justin Watson. He was taken back by it, almost stunned. The rest of the league is really worried. (He's a Patriots, Brady, and anyone who plays the Chiefs fan.)

MahomesMagic · 10-17-2023, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Here were the plans you signed off on last year before we won a SB:

Your "plan" last year sounded remarkably similar to the one from this year, so forgive Veach for telling you to go **** yourself.

You're using me wanting to draft a WR against me?

WTF is wrong with you?

I didn't like the Tyreek Hill trade either but I am willing to wait and see what else we add.

Quote all my posts on this. My point was let's see who we get with the draft picks and after the 2022 draft I was LOVING the picks.

You're failing at this because you don't even know what my positions are. Instead you are just randomly searching for material and you don't understand what you are even quoting.

But I can play this game also. I'll just search for random posts of yours too and post them out of context too if you like.

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