****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

If the expectation of a wr to be "open" enough for Mahomes to trust him enough to throw it is like.....Tyreek separation.....well that's a Mahomes issue not a WR one.

Exactly what's happening IMO

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Also, the Chiefs are 5-1 and sitting at the top of the AFC. They're already a ****ing SB contender, so saying Rice "probably" makes them one is just another way of downplaying him as a huge solution/piece.

We lost a 1 point game to Detroit that was a total gong show. Otherwise, for all the offense's issues, we're sitting undefeated right now.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

I’m actually really encouraged by the WR’s. Especially after last night. If Pat takes the 4 or 5 (or more) quick reads that were available, he’s got one less INT, possibly one more TD. Looked to me they were open short, good for 6-8 yards and get/keep the chains a movin’. Watson not bringing in that long ball was a bitter pill. But the game was never in doubt.

Denver D in the red zone play was tough.

This, it was more apparent in person and will be on the All-22.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Razaele

We lost a 1 point game to Detroit that was a total gong show. Otherwise, for all the offense's issues, we're sitting undefeated right now.

How many times have we seen Chiefs fans shit their pants over a great defense and good offense (with a lesser QB than Mahomes)?

Now apparently that's not necessarily enough to be a SB contender.

These people have ****ing lost it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That's pretty much what you said here, dumbass:



Also, you referred to him as a "bandaid", which typically means a temporary solution to a problem that doesn't actually fix it.

Not my fault that you're trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth.

No you’re just being intentionally obtuse.

Rashee rice doesnt fix the deficiencies of the rest of the wr room. He helps mask them and that can be fine enough given our strengths in other areas. But it is something that ultimately needs to be addressed. And until it is we will be utilizing the hell out of kelce and leaning more on other areas of the team more than I’d like. But for this year, it’s probably plenty fine enough.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

No you’re just being intentionally obtuse.

Rashee rice doesnt fix the deficiencies of the rest of the wr room. He helps mask them and that can be fine enough given our strengths in other areas. But it is something that ultimately needs to be addressed. And until it is we will be utilizing the hell out of kelce and leaning more on other areas of the team more than I’d like. But for this year, it’s probably plenty fine enough.

Oh I'm being obtuse? The ****ing irony.

You all offseason:

"The Chiefs need a WR1"

*the Chiefs draft a WR who looks like a possible WR1, and at the very least a very high end WR2, just 6 games into his career*

You: but it doesn't solve the problems of the rest of the room!

You are just moving the goalposts because you're absolutely obsessed with this subject/narrative, and you just want to keep arguing and being overly critical while pretending like you're happy with Rice.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by staylor26

How many times have we seen Chiefs fans shit their pants over a great defense and good offense (with a lesser QB than Mahomes)?

Now apparently that's not necessarily enough to be a SB contender.

These people have ****ing lost it.

Board culture is that something must be bitched about to high heaven at all times. This is true no matter how good or bad things are overall.

[staylor26]

"Something that ultimately needs to be addressed"

Do you see what the **** I'm talking about?

The implication here is pretty ****ing obvious. Rice doesn't actually address the issue, hence band-aid.

You're 100% talking out of both sides of your mouth. You aren't fooling anybody.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Utter human shit.

Hope Mahomes marches into Brett’s office tomorrow and demands to beat Burrow’s deal.

Utter human shit

This just deserves to be tread upon.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

If the expectation of a wr to be "open" enough for Mahomes to trust him enough to throw it is like.....Tyreek separation.....well that's a Mahomes issue not a WR one.

No, it is not the same thing. He doesn’t have trust issues with rice. Hell he seems at least somewhat comfortable tossing it up for Watson to go up and grab it. I don’t think mahomes has any trust in how his other WRs make subtle adjustments. We’ve seen his frustration when WRs make simple mistakes like not flattening their route. Even when he isn’t playing hero ball some of these WRs are very often on a different page and in most of those instances. Mahomes made the right read and the WR didn’t make the right adjustment.

And we’ve seen historically when mahomes doesn’t trust the offense to efficiently chunk out yards then he bails on the checkdowns too. Arguably that’s something he needs to just get over, but it still comes down to trust.

If these guys don’t consistently hit their spots then mahomes has way lower margin for error. He will be afraid to throw into tighter spots. And he will make sure the WR hits his spot instead of anticipating where his WR will move. We’ve seen between juju and rice that it doesn’t have to be about sheer athletic talent, he trusts guys who know where to go and how to get there.

[staylor26]

Reasonable stance:

Rashee Rice has been fantastic and looks like a huge hit by Veach, but we need one more guy for the future. I'd draft another in the first 2 rounds.

Rice and Kelce with this defense is definitely enough to win a SB this year though.

I know that's similar to what you're trying to pretend you're saying, but you are not, hence "bandaid", "probably makes them SB contenders", and "something that ultimately needs to be addressed".

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Reasonable stance:

Rashee Rice has been fantastic and looks like a huge hit by Veach, but we need one more guy for the future.

Rice and Kelce with this defense is definitely enough to win a SB this year though.

I think that's always been the stance, no?

I mean I presumed when we drafted Rice that we took him to be the X. The "Karlaftis at SDE" of the long-term redesign of our WR room. And next season is when we look for a more vertical speed threat.

This has just always appeared to be such an obvious long-term plan to me. Just the same as drafting Karlaftis signaled that we were going to look for a bendier, more explosive DE the following year.

Some folks just don't pay attention to the big picture at all.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think that's always been the stance, no?

I mean I presumed when we drafted Rice that we took him to be the X. The "Karlaftis at SDE" of the long-term redesign of our WR room. And next season is when we look for a more vertical speed threat.

This has just always appeared to be such an obvious long-term plan to me. Just the same as drafting Karlaftis signaled that we were going to look for a bendier, more explosive DE the following year.

Some folks just don't pay attention to the big picture at all.

For the majority, absolutely, but not zilla.

He reffered to Rice as a "bandaid" and said that he doesn't really address the underlying issue of our WR room.

[dirk digler]

Rice is going to take over Skyy at some point. Need to give Ross more snaps as well but Mahomes needs to start throwing to these guys instead of just focusing on Travis

Chiefs wide receiver snap counts (Week 6 vs. Broncos)

Valdes-Scantling 40
Moore 37
Rice 35
Toney 30
Watson 28
Ross 10

— Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) October 13, 2023

[BWillie]

If you aren't alarmed that we only managed to score 19 on a team the Miami Dolphins put up 70 on...who was the historically worst defense ever thru 6 games...how can you call yourself a real fan?

If your son or daughter had a drug problem but was still getting good grades would you just look away because things are going good? We should be excited as hell about our defense. But concerned as hell about our offense. We are here to win super bowls. Being the absolute best is the barometer