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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:20 AM   #3631
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Not about forgetting to play. That knee gets more ****ed as time goes on, and it was bothering him pretty bad even here.
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:22 AM   #3632
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I have zero issue with letting Ross and Rice play it out. But I also believe that these 2, particularly rice, have that “feel” I never saw in mecole and don’t see with skyy. Rice makes a lot of the wrong adjustments but you can see early on he just has a natural feel for the position. I think to o.city’s point while you can learn some of this, there’s also a lot to instinct and feel that you either have it or you don’t
Well, you just don't know in advance if a guy is going to be able to get it or not. If you could, no WR would ever bust and they'd all reach their physical potential. And Mecole Hardman would be putting up a thousand yards every year.

And some guys excel in certain systems but not so much in others.

Football is hard. The draft is hard.

We're going to be ok.
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:31 AM   #3633
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Juju would have accomplished little in New England last season. And he had almost 1,000 yards here. I doubt he completely forgot how to play overnight.
His knee is ****ing done.

What do you not get about that?
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:34 AM   #3634
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His knee is ****ing done.

What do you not get about that?
His knee was ****ed last year. Its a chronic injury that needs to get drained every so often. Juju wouldnt have done shit in NE last year. The difference in this year and last year is his QB is now Mac Jones and his coach is Bellicheat.

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Old 10-11-2023, 11:36 AM   #3635
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His knee was ****ed last year. Its a chronic injury that needs to get drained every so often. Juju wouldnt have done shit in NE last year. The difference in this year and last year is his QB is not Mac Jones and his coach is Bellicheat.
Impossible that it's gotten worse, even though that's clearly the case, right?

Do you honestly believe that time doesn't make that chronic injury more of an issue?
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:37 AM   #3636
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Also, Mac Jones has nothing to do with the fact that JuJu isn't even a top 3 option in that passing game.
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Also, Mac Jones has nothing to do with the fact that JuJu isn't even a top 3 option in that passing game.
It doesn't? NE ****ing sucks balls and they have four receivers on their roster better than anyone on our roster not named Rice.

The good news is we dont even need much more firepower. It will be easy to obtain in the offseason.
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:47 AM   #3638
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I don't really believe much in development at WR as in a player that has physical gifts learns to play the position in the NFL.

The only two cases I can think of are Steve Smith and Tyreek Hill as players that got significantly better in the NFL.

Usually if you draft a guy that has no craft, can't run routes-that player still sucks at it in the NFL.

When we drafted Hardman we passed on guys like McLaurin and Diontae Johnson.

Yes there is a a learning curve as to learning playbook, offense, adapting to NFL speed.

But McLaurin was running those crisp, precise routes at Ohio State while Hardman wasn't.
This is an excellent take. It's also the exact reason that no NFL teams employ wide receiver coaches and the WRs are never required to practice because if they weren't All Americans in college they won't be good in the NFL.
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:52 AM   #3639
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It doesn't? NE ****ing sucks balls and they have four receivers on their roster better than anyone on our roster not named Rice.

The good news is we dont even need much more firepower. It will be easy to obtain in the offseason.
JFC here you go with this hyperbolic bullshit again. This isn't even remotely true. Only your dumabss could possibly believe this.

The Patriots WRs are ever bit as bad as ours, but without the young talent and upside.

It speaks volumes that JuJu was signed to be their WR1 and hasn't even been close to that.
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:57 AM   #3640
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Impossible that it's gotten worse, even though that's clearly the case, right?

Do you honestly believe that time doesn't make that chronic injury more of an issue?
I believe Mac Jones broke Juju's spirit.

Jerry Rice would probably have a terrible work ethic if he had to play with Mac Jones.
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JFC here you go with this hyperbolic bullshit again. This isn't even remotely true. Only your dumabss could possibly believe this.

The Patriots WRs are ever bit as bad as ours, but without the young talent and upside.

It speaks volumes that JuJu was signed to be their WR1 and hasn't even been close to that.
You significantly underestimate how good Mahomes and Reid actually are.
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Old 10-11-2023, 11:59 AM   #3642
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You significantly underestimate how good Mahomes and Reid actually are.
You severely underestimate what a clueless ****ing moron you are.
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The WR room in NE is no better than the trash they had when Brady left, but sure it's just the QB, and not them that are trash too!

Hell, it's gotten worse considering Meyers was easily the best WR on that team for years, and would still be today.

I don't think I've ever seen a single ****ing reerun try to argue that the Pats WR room isn't absolutely dog shit and the worst in the NFL.
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The WR room in NE is no better than the trash they had when Brady left, but sure it's just the QB, and not them that are trash too!

Hell, it's gotten worse considering Meyers was easily the best WR on that team for years, and would still be today.

I don't think I've ever seen a single ****ing reerun try to argue that the Pats WR room isn't absolutely dog shit and the worst in the NFL.
Where did I say I thought the NE Wide Receivers were good? They are just better than ours. But we are deeper!
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Where did I say I thought the NE Wide Receivers were good? They are just better than ours. But we are deeper!
Not a single reasonable person could come to that conclusion.

Hell, you had to pretend Rice doesn't exist just to even try to make that argument when you first said it. Now you're just flat out saying their group is better.

I would easily take our WRs over theirs, as theirs are every bit as bad today without the talent and upside that we have in our group.

Congrats on your millionth absolutely reeruned ****ing take though.
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