Chiefs ****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread**** - Page 196

Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

Bl00dyBizkitz · 10-05-2023, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's kind of shitty that we took a guy with a top 50 pick and we're supposed to just be like "oh well he's a JAG it's ok"

Literally happens to every GM, no matter how good or bad they are.

Megatron96 · 10-05-2023, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Yep, we're only ranked third this season. Not elite at all!

3rd in what?

Only asking because we’re 9th or 10th on n pts/GM, total pts, I think we’re 10th in rushing yds . . . So what exactly are we 3rd in?

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-05-2023, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

3rd in what?

Only asking because we’re 9th or 10th on n pts/GM, total pts, I think we’re 10th in rushing yds . . . So what exactly are we 3rd in?

They’re 3rd in yards. Despite leading the league in drops.

If they’d wanted to score at the end of the Jaguars and Jets games, they’d be top 5ish in PPG too.

jettio · 10-05-2023, 10:36 AM

I am surprised that the chiefsplanet mob that is anal about the salary cap does not see the benefit of having a WR room good enough to win a Lombardi, but putting up stats that keeps players affordable.

Win and stay healthy and don't overreact to the fantasy stats being low. Watching that game, the three bad plays on offense were not due to a WR making a mistake.

**LoneWolf** · 10-05-2023, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

3rd in what?

Only asking because we’re 9th or 10th on n pts/GM, total pts, I think we’re 10th in rushing yds . . . So what exactly are we 3rd in?

Yards per game.

Mecca · 10-05-2023, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Literally happens to every GM, no matter how good or bad they are.

Yes it happens, it's not a great trend that our 2 higher drafted skill position players haven't been great. Hopefully Rice will change that trend.

RunKC · 10-05-2023, 11:01 AM

The hit rate for 2nd rd picks is less than half IIRC. Would imagine it's lower for picks in the back half of the 2nd rd.

Hardman was a successful draft pick based on his stats usage here. The problem is he's a successful 2nd rd WR compared to drafts in general but his draft class was deep at WR so people get pissed bc DK Metcalf, Diontae Johnson and Terry McLaurin were drafted after him.

Megatron96 · 10-05-2023, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Yards per game.

Total yards per game? Oh well then. That’s a relief. Thank God we have that stat to cling to.

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-05-2023, 11:05 AM

What’s Sammy Watkins up to these days?

Bl00dyBizkitz · 10-05-2023, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yes it happens, it's not a great trend that our 2 higher drafted skill position players haven't been great. Hopefully Rice will change that trend.

Yeah but he hits nearly everywhere else, which helps a ton. If you told me my GM would miss on most of his round 1-2 skill position players but he consistently hits every other position, I'd take it man. Especially when our goal is to be contending every single year. Just draft good football players that can play right now.

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-05-2023, 11:41 AM

KC WRs in the first four games of 2022: 53 receptions for 623 yds and 4 TDs.

First four games this year: 54 receptions, 706 yds, 4 TDs.

crispystl · 10-05-2023, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh

I hope we make a big splash and steal tee Higgins in free agency next spring

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Tee Higgins so so damn overrated. I don't want any part of him at that price.
I'll be absolutely shocked if he doesn't decline when he's o some other team without Chase.

Mecca · 10-05-2023, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crispystl

Tee Higgins so so damn overrated. I don't want any part of him at that price.
I'll be absolutely shocked if he doesn't decline when he's o some other team without Chase.

I'm not sure how much he'll decline, he's a jump ball guy, he doesn't rely on just outrunning people or even being a great route runner.

Eleazar · 10-05-2023, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

The hit rate for 2nd rd picks is less than half IIRC. Would imagine it's lower for picks in the back half of the 2nd rd.

Hardman was a successful draft pick based on his stats usage here. The problem is he's a successful 2nd rd WR compared to drafts in general but his draft class was deep at WR so people get pissed bc DK Metcalf, Diontae Johnson and Terry McLaurin were drafted after him.

Hardman was overdrafted. Not his fault. He still performed pretty well and was a decent player for us. When you get a 50/600-ish guy with a 2nd round pick that isn't really a miss.

We have two problems with our WRs, basically.
1. The Skyy Moore pick at this point looks like a whiff
2. The decision to bet on Toney's health was a poor decision.

That's really it. We could fix this in an offseason with a decent signing and/or a pick that hits. But there's no way to fix it in-season, other than doing whatever we can to help Rice emerge.

Just is what it is. Sometimes you get it wrong.

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-05-2023, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele

Hardman was overdrafted. Not his fault. He still performed pretty well and was a decent player for us. When you get a 50/600-ish guy with a 2nd round pick that isn't really a miss.

We have two problems with our WRs, basically.
1. The Skyy Moore pick at this point looks like a whiff
2. The decision to bet on Toney's health was a poor decision.

That's really it. We could fix this in an offseason with a decent signing and/or a pick that hits. But there's no way to fix it in-season, other than doing whatever we can to help Rice emerge.

Just is what it is. Sometimes you get it wrong.

They've been more productive than last year's WRs so far, despite bringing Rice/Ross along slowly and Toney being injured. Wouldn't say they've gotten it wrong, and it could look a lot less wrong by the end of the year.

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