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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:55 PM   #2776
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Completely agree. I thought I was the only one. Listen Mahomes and Reid are great but I promise at some point this season those two won’t be enough to over come this lack of talent at WR.
So everything would be okay if they still had Smith-Schuster, who is now like the 5th option in a weak Patriots offense?
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:56 PM   #2777
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Ross will save the day give him 50% snaps
Has this guy even suited up the last couple weeks ??
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:58 PM   #2778
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So everything would be okay if they still had Smith-Schuster, who is now like the 5th option in a weak Patriots offense?
Never said anything about him. He’s basically running on his last 20% of tread. But now that I think about it, he was arguably our best WR last season
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:40 PM   #2779
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Has this guy even suited up the last couple weeks ??
He played 4 snaps against the Jets.
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Old 10-03-2023, 11:04 PM   #2780
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So everything would be okay if they still had Smith-Schuster, who is now like the 5th option in a weak Patriots offense?
JuJu had very good chemistry with Mahomes, which is kind of a priceless trait when you look at other receivers who can't seem to get on the same page with the QB. I wonder if Belichick might be willing to trade him back to KC.
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Old 10-03-2023, 11:20 PM   #2781
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So everything would be okay if they still had Smith-Schuster, who is now like the 5th option in a weak Patriots offense?
Everything would be okay if we had a healthy JuJu and Travis got a year younger instead of a year older.

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Old 10-04-2023, 07:14 AM   #2782
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Here's something we need to understand though. If you wanna go balls deep on weapons, spending and drafting, you probably aren't gonna be able to win games like you just did against the Jets.

Think back to 2018. If you get a bad Pat game, you're not gonna have the horses on defense to carry you at times.

There's a tradeoff for everything.
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Old 10-04-2023, 08:09 AM   #2783
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Have seen this more than we care to admit. Mahomes has guys open and doesn't throw it. People get mad at MVS but here he is wide open and Patrick won't throw it? Wth?

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Old 10-04-2023, 08:15 AM   #2784
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Have seen this more than we care to admit. Mahomes has guys open and doesn't throw it. People get mad at MVS but here he is wide open and Patrick won't throw it? Wth?

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Something is going on.
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Yeah, Pat's not playing well. I'm not sure what the deal is.
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Old 10-04-2023, 08:30 AM   #2786
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Yikes.

Something is going on.
That one is one where I think he's not sure if MVS is settling into the zone. MVS clearly was and created a really nice throwing lane, but as Mahomes is pulling the ball down he's still seeing MVS decelerating and perhaps not sure if they're on the same page.

Turns out they were. Mahomes just hadn't convinced himself of that fact so he tucked it. I suspect he immediately regretted the decision to hit the triangle button and pull down the passing icons there.

EDIT: I also wonder if he didn't lose track of where he was on the field and wasn't sure if he'd gone past the LOS. Hard to say. Definitely a strange looking play and as noted, not one we usually see.

Our sweet boy isn't playing his best football, for sure. He's looking decidedly average out there.
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Ross has been getting open.

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That one is one where I think he's not sure if MVS is settling into the zone. MVS clearly was and created a really nice throwing lane, but as Mahomes is pulling the ball down he's still seeing MVS decelerating and perhaps not sure if they're on the same page.

Turns out they were. Mahomes just hadn't convinced himself of that fact so he tucked it. I suspect he immediately regretted the decision to hit the triangle button and pull down the passing icons there.

EDIT: I also wonder if he didn't lose track of where he was on the field and wasn't sure if he'd gone past the LOS. Hard to say. Definitely a strange looking play and as noted, not one we usually see.

Our sweet boy isn't playing his best football, for sure. He's looking decidedly average out there.
I think it’s psychological. When the receivers make mistakes he begins to press. He knows the best way to move the ball is in manageable chunks which means one WR error throws off everything. A blown first down means you now have to get 10 yards in 2 tries. In a weird way he is tentative downfield because he doesn’t want to waste a down if it doesn’t hit. That’s one piece of it.

The other is that while we can piece together a few instances of missing open guys we also have too many where nobody is open. Or at least his first 2 reads aren’t. When you don’t trust your guys to get open you stare down a read, you bail early, or sometimes you just throw up something dumb.

We need to clean up the mistakes and our offense needs to get guys off the field who aren’t getting open so we can maximize the drives where at least one guy is open. Then give mahomes a few games of stability with the same cast so we’re not changing it every 5 snaps.
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I think it’s psychological. When the receivers make mistakes he begins to press. He knows the best way to move the ball is in manageable chunks which means one WR error throws off everything. A blown first down means you now have to get 10 yards in 2 tries. In a weird way he is tentative downfield because he doesn’t want to waste a down if it doesn’t hit. That’s one piece of it.

The other is that while we can piece together a few instances of missing open guys we also have too many where nobody is open. Or at least his first 2 reads aren’t. When you don’t trust your guys to get open you stare down a read, you bail early, or sometimes you just throw up something dumb.

We need to clean up the mistakes and our offense needs to get guys off the field who aren’t getting open so we can maximize the drives where at least one guy is open. Then give mahomes a few games of stability with the same cast so we’re not changing it every 5 snaps.
The WR's are playing so poorly that not even Mahomes has been able to elevate their play to an acceptable level. But their suckage has negatively affected his play. That's a problem.
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JuJu had very good chemistry with Mahomes, which is kind of a priceless trait when you look at other receivers who can't seem to get on the same page with the QB. I wonder if Belichick might be willing to trade him back to KC.
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