****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

[Sofa King]

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

The first two I expect the comp to be low.

Hollywood is a call and see.

Yeah, I bet the comp for Renfrow is going to be really low in a trade to the Chiefs.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I was in favor of signing those guys too before I knew what they went for. You can't seriously think it would've made sense to sign either of those guys for what they ultimately cleared at.

Did you object to spending 8 million on Tranquil and Edwards who are nice backups?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Yeah, I bet the comp for Renfrow is going to be really low in a trade to the Chiefs.

Maybe they try to be stubborn but he's a guy they aren't even using. They should be happy to get any draft pick back for such a player.

It's like when Carolina called on Smith-Marsette. We moved him real fast.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Rice may end up a very good receiver.

I have no confidence in Skyy Moore.

But, they way people bend over backwards to defend Moore because they were a fan of the pick, is ridiculous. He still struggles with the playbook, or he is just a bad route runner, and since that was supposed to be one of his skills coming out of college, I believe he just can't learn what he is supposed to do on any given play.

I will cheer for Skyy Moore, and I will hope he gets better, but he has played in 24 games now, and he is not getting better.

Now I will wait for people to say that 24 NFL games isn't enough to determine if he can play or not.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Did you object to spending 8 million on Tranquil and Edwards who are nice backups?

Where are you getting 8 million? The two combined are getting slightly north of $5 million, which is a fantastic use of funds.

We don't win last night without those two. Are you sure you're actually watching the games?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Did you object to spending 8 million on Tranquil and Edwards who are nice backups?

Where are you getting 8 million? The two combined are getting slightly north of $5 million, which is a fantastic use of funds.

We don't win last night without those two. Are you sure you're actually watching the games?

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Did you object to spending 8 million on Tranquil and Edwards who are nice backups?

I think that's how you build a complete team. Those are 2 guys who fill 2 positions much more in the prime of their careers (27 and 28) than Thielen (33) who most people thought was washed. But again, if you had a take on Thielen that was different, please post it here so we all can see.

This is such ex post bitching nonsense.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Where are you getting 8 million? The two combined are getting slightly north of $5 million, which is a fantastic use of funds.

We don't win last night without those two. Are you sure you're actually watching the games?

Maybe before you assume you know my answer you should slow down there just a tad.

It's a question I asked Twisted because he thinks 8 million is a lot of cap space.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I was in favor of signing those guys too before I knew what they went for. You can't seriously think it would've made sense to sign either of those guys for what they ultimately cleared at.

DHop for 13 a year for 2 yrs? Yeah.

Spotrac also has it as a 1 yr 12mil deal with a 7.5mil dead cap if he's cut after the season. Yeah I would have done that.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

DHop for 13 a year for 2 yrs? Yeah.

Spotrac also has it as a 1 yr 12mil deal with a 7.5mil dead cap if he's cut after the season. Yeah I would have done that.

I don't think any other team would've given him that money. And hence, why he chose the Titans who were the least attractive option of any team that pursued him and who were absolutely desperate for offensive firepower.

But good to know you place the value of a potential 1yr/19.5mm deal on a guy who has 54 yds/game receiving this year coming off an injury and a PED suspension.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I don't think any other team would've given him that money. And hence, why he chose the Titans who were the least attractive option of any team that pursued him and who were absolutely desperate for offensive firepower.

But good to know you place the value of a potential 1yr/19.5mm deal on a guy who has 54 yds/game receiving this year coming off an injury and a PED suspension.

I mean...our best WR is getting 40 yards per game. So 54 would be an amazing increase. And that 54 is coming from Tannehill and the Titans offensive system. Have a feeling that it would be a tad bit different with Mahomes and Reid's offense.

[Megatron96]

Receiving passes from Ryan Tannehill (QBR=28.3) DHop is projected to catch 77 passes for more than 920 yards.

Adam Thielen projects to catch 115 passes for more than 1200 yards. Bryce Young currently possesses a QBR of 25.0.


MVS is projected to catch 26 balls for 442 yards.

[BWillie]

Deandre Hopkins would literally solve our offensive woes overnight. He would have double the production in KC than with Ryan ****ing Tannehill as well. But that ship has passed. The good news is...any decent WR will help this team. Shit...an average one will help this team. So we have room to grow.

[Chief Pagan]

I was sort of hoping to resign JuJu. He's done nothing so far with the Pats.

Not clear if that is because he is injured or if Mahomes can use him better.

3 year deal at 25 million with a 5 million cap hit this year.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Receiving passes from Ryan Tannehill (QBR=28.3) DHop is projected to catch 77 passes for more than 920 yards.

Adam Thielen projects to catch 115 passes for more than 1200 yards. Bryce Young currently possesses a QBR of 25.0.


MVS is projected to catch 26 balls for 442 yards.

Hmmm... So perhaps having those receivers who have better stats than MVS means that it doesn't elevate the level of QB play?

And isn't that the point? Mahomes can have a solid QBR and the Chiefs can be 3-1 even without those WR statistics.

Would you like other proof like a SB victory last year?

You're so desperate for WR stats rather than team wins it borders on comical. But you're also the guy who chimes in on Thielen's rent money contract...

I'm still waiting for how you would've addressed our OL after giving him that money. Not sign Omenihu, perhaps? Or then would you have bitched about how we didn't do anything to fortify the DL?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Hmmm... So perhaps having those receivers who have better stats than MVS means that it doesn't elevate the level of QB play?

And isn't that the point? Mahomes can have a solid QBR and the Chiefs can be 3-1 even without those WR statistics.

Would you like other proof like a SB victory last year?

You're so desperate for WR stats rather than team wins it borders on comical. But you're also the guy who chimes in on Thielen's rent money contract...

I'm still waiting for how you would've addressed our OL after giving him that money. Not sign Omenihu, perhaps? Or then would you have bitched about how we didn't do anything to fortify the DL?

Lol, what DHop is doing is almost singlehandedly preventing Tannehill from having a negative QBR rating. But whatever.

What exactly is MVS doing for his $$$?


And check the play-by-play of the Super Bowl. The WRs did almost nothing. 80 yards receiving for the entire game. A whole 11 whopping receptions by all 5 WRs that saw a target in the SB.

What actually happened, is that Pacheco's running, Spags stopping PHI's offense three times in the 2nd half, and Toub's STs saved KC from another SB loss. The WRs had almost nothing to do with it either way, except for the pair of TDs on the whip routes for one yard a-piece.

Last night, on that 15-play drive, KC completed just one pass. To Kelce. No passes were completed to a WR, out of 5 possible targets on WRs.

Even if we include the previous drive (14 plays), in which 4 passes were completed to WRs, out of 29 total plays, there were 16 possible passing snaps? Four completions to TEs/RBs. 4 catches total for WRs, none in the final drive.

And not for lack of trying. Pat stood back there no less than 3 times waiting for up to 8 seconds for someone to get open, and then just decided to run it instead. he ran it 7 times in the game, which I think is the same number of rushes he had in the last game, and nearly twice what his career average is (3.7 rushes/gm). He's currently on pace to run it 96 times this season. Ninety-six times.

Someone remind me. How did Pat hurt his ankles the last couple times? Wasn't he running? How much is Clark paying him to run around instead of using that God-given golden arm?


And where is it written that it's okay for our WRs to catch balls at a 58% rate? That's piss poor, and not even just for a SB-Bound team.


So, yeah, I guess I'm concerned about the "WR stats," as you call it. I don't like Pat running it 7 times a game, when that's exactly how he gets hurt, and I don't like watching the offense stall and struggle as often as it has been recently, especially when it's clear that the WRs are consistently inconsistent about running the right routes, getting open when they're ****ing supposed to, and not dropping balls.

you know Pat only attempted to pass 30 times, and we ran it 35 times? you know what the situation was the other two times that happened? one was the wind game when it was blowing like 40 mph. And the other was when he hurt his wrist or hand in the first half, and we ended up running it 25 times in the 2nd half or however many exactly it was.

Last night was the first time in Pat's career that KC ran it more than he attempted to throw it.


Tell me that was the gameplan. Tell me it was the plan to have Pat run it three times after standing behind the line for as many as 8 seconds, going through his progressions twice before taking off.

Explain how our WRs are supposed to be little more than window dressing, and yet we're supposed to get back to the SB, while dragging their dead weight for 19 games while they average 2.5 catches/game.