Andy Reid playing chess nfl refs playing checkers

[Mr. Wizard]

Jawaan Taylor did not get benched on Sunday. According to Charles Goldman of @atozsports, Andy Reid mentioned he had a laceration on the inside of his mouth, but Goldman was told the team pulled Taylor out of the game intentionally. It wasn’t just to sit him as they began to rest other starters in a blowout. The team did so in order to have Prince Tega Wanogho align at similar depth to see if the officials would call a penalty. Donovan Smith also set deeper than he did in the first half. Well, guess what? Neither of them were flagged for illegal formation. It’s just more evidence that Jawaan Taylor is being targeted and it might explain the postgame comments of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes even more.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard

Jawaan Taylor did not get benched on Sunday. According to Charles Goldman of @atozsports, Andy Reid mentioned he had a laceration on the inside of his mouth, but Goldman was told the team pulled Taylor out of the game intentionally. It wasn’t just to sit him as they began to rest other starters in a blowout. The team did so in order to have Prince Tega Wanogho align at similar depth to see if the officials would call a penalty. Donovan Smith also set deeper than he did in the first half. Well, guess what? Neither of them were flagged for illegal formation. It’s just more evidence that Jawaan Taylor is being targeted and it might explain the postgame comments of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes even more.

That's an impressive level of in game investigation by Andy. Big Red is a legend.

[MVChiefFan]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

The Refs embarrass themselves every Sunday.

I have said this for years: Until NFL officials have to give post game press conferences, where their names and pics are posted and associated with every bad call they make, and they actually have to answer for those bad calls, nothing will ever change.

NFL refs enjoy almost complete anonymity, and therefore they know that they won't face any real consequences for bad calls, even when they reak of point shaving or stink of spread manipulation.

And the NFL wants it to stay exactly the way it is now, which is why NFL refs are still part time, and no reform has been suggested or introduced.

It drives me crazy that there’s no real accountability. They just get to do whatever they want and no one can say shit. We have no idea how they’re “reprimanded” behind the scenes. Something really should be done.

[Marcellus]

Being totally honest, I thought that's what he might be doing when I saw he had pulled Taylor, no way was it punishment after seeing how he was lined up.

And also, holy shit is there a dumber poster than X-top? I mean that's a really really high bar to clear here but its a valid question. JFC man you are worried a 41pt lead might be lost over a couple 5 yard penalties IF they were called?

I mean thats burn your apartment down smoking a porkbutt stupid..

[KCUnited]

Not that I don't believe it because Andy is certainly savvy enough to do this and is obviously fed up with the situation but has anyone else reported this or have a screenshot/video of PTW lineup at Taylor's depth?

The game wasn't televised here and I haven't found a replay of it.

[Hog Rider]

Originally Posted by vonBobo

If you enjoy watching Herbert get beat in his only playoff game of his career, than this play is one of the funniest.

https://youtu.be/OKQEueLg-jc?si=g4TWOegIVc0lGZ2E

JT was offsides and illegal formationing on the chiefs loss too but they got smoked so no one cares.

I slowed that to 1/4 speed, and you can barely tell the difference between the ball moving and Taylor moving. fwiw

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

you post this anywhere but here and the fbi will come looking for you

I will never admit to how long it took me to figure out what in the hell you were talking about.

I'm going to send them toward the people who liked my post. They obviously knew exactly what you meant.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Not that I don't believe it because Andy is certainly savvy enough to do this and is obviously fed up with the situation but has anyone else reported this or have a screenshot/video of PTW lineup at Taylor's depth?

The game wasn't televised here and I haven't found a replay of it.

Reid's post game press conference pretty much confirms it. I have zero doubt its accurate.

[teedubya]

It seems that Jawaan Taylor has stopped the jumping early... that was bugging TF out of me week one. The illegal formation penalties were not good either. Hopefully they stop targeting him now and pissing all of us off.

[LagunaSWana]

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan

It drives me crazy that there’s no real accountability. They just get to do whatever they want and no one can say shit. We have no idea how they’re “reprimanded” behind the scenes. Something really should be done.

I'm not sure what putting the officials on the spot in a press conference will do. If there are better officials waiting in the wings to take the spot of someone that is performing poorly, then that would be one thing. But I suspect most of these officials are chosen because they are better, on average, than the ones that don't get picked to work in the NFL.

I think this idea of "accountability" that fans clamor for is more to make them feel good than to somehow "force" better calls to be made. Do you think the refs go out there saying, "Hey, I want to blow some calls today"?

I am a college baseball umpire, so I have a different perspective than most here. Every time I step on the field, my goal is to have a perfect game. But getting one look, from one angle, at full speed makes attaining that goal incredibly difficult. And getting every pitch correct with a 3 dimensional zone with pitches coming in at 90+ mph, and with pitches that are breaking right at the edge or corner of the zone (or just missing that spot) is nearly impossible.

All that said, do I think the officials have had their radar set squarely on Taylor? Absolutely. A memo went out that might as well have had Taylor's name in it. Hopefully they made their point and the Chiefs can get back to business without having to be concerned about it anymore. Andy is sure doing his part.

[Boxer_Chief]

Hell a press conference isn't going to butthurt refs, a whole stadium of people literally made a referee cry. I say give them hell.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by LagunaSWana

I'm not sure what putting the officials on the spot in a press conference will do. If there are better officials waiting in the wings to take the spot of someone that is performing poorly, then that would be one thing. But I suspect most of these officials are chosen because they are better, on average, than the ones that don't get picked to work in the NFL.

I think this idea of "accountability" that fans clamor for is more to make them feel good than to somehow "force" better calls to be made. Do you think the refs go out there saying, "Hey, I want to blow some calls today"?

I am a college baseball umpire, so I have a different perspective than most here. Every time I step on the field, my goal is to have a perfect game. But getting one look, from one angle, at full speed makes attaining that goal incredibly difficult. And getting every pitch correct with a 3 dimensional zone with pitches coming in at 90+ mph, and with pitches that are breaking right at the edge or corner of the zone (or just missing that spot) is nearly impossible.

All that said, do I think the officials have had their radar set squarely on Taylor? Absolutely. A memo went out that might as well have had Taylor's name in it. Hopefully they made their point and the Chiefs can get back to business without having to be concerned about it anymore. Andy is sure doing his part.

We know people make mistakes and it won’t change anything after the fact but every other profession on the Manet has to admit they made a mistake when they happen except refs in any sport at any level , when questioned they throw people out , we just want to hear from their mouth they ****ed up or what they were seeing but that won’t happen.

[T-post Tom]

Next home game: fans tar & feather a ref and hang him/her/it from the George Brett statue. Send a message…

[SurroundedByMorons]

Originally Posted by xztop123

The point is I’ve never heard a coach intentionally telling a player to break the rules to see if a penalty is called.

Have you ever played the game? Beyond pee wee flag football? It happens.

[Eleazar]

Taylor ought to align properly, but the fact that he's being treated differently than every other tackle in the league is nonsense and the NFL needs to get a handle on it.

[MVChiefFan]

Originally Posted by LagunaSWana

I'm not sure what putting the officials on the spot in a press conference will do. If there are better officials waiting in the wings to take the spot of someone that is performing poorly, then that would be one thing. But I suspect most of these officials are chosen because they are better, on average, than the ones that don't get picked to work in the NFL.

I think this idea of "accountability" that fans clamor for is more to make them feel good than to somehow "force" better calls to be made. Do you think the refs go out there saying, "Hey, I want to blow some calls today"?

I am a college baseball umpire, so I have a different perspective than most here. Every time I step on the field, my goal is to have a perfect game. But getting one look, from one angle, at full speed makes attaining that goal incredibly difficult. And getting every pitch correct with a 3 dimensional zone with pitches coming in at 90+ mph, and with pitches that are breaking right at the edge or corner of the zone (or just missing that spot) is nearly impossible.

All that said, do I think the officials have had their radar set squarely on Taylor? Absolutely. A memo went out that might as well have had Taylor's name in it. Hopefully they made their point and the Chiefs can get back to business without having to be concerned about it anymore. Andy is sure doing his part.

How did you completely miss the point? I would be a full blown idiot to think officials can’t make mistakes and human errors. I’m talking about a guy that doesn’t get penalized for an entire game for lining up incorrectly. Then a memo goes out to the officials, and even though he seems to have made an effort to correct himself, they start throwing flags on the guy like he’s beating their kids.

It’s intentional and wrong. This isn’t about missing a call, it’s about making several wrong calls against a single player just to prove a point. If you don’t think that’s a bad look then I don’t know what to tell ya. But, again, no one is held accountable for it, so who even knows what happens next, or when it stops? That’s what’s so infuriating.