Chiefs ****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread**** - Page 107

Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-18-2023, 02:12 PM

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Out biggest need right now is for guys to be where they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there, and then catch the ****ing ball. Everything else will fall into place as soon as that is happening, and all of this "we need a WR1!" Stuff becomes entirely irrelevant.

And it was better in week 2 than the week before, so things are already heading in the right direction.

That is exactly the sugarcoating I’m talking about. We still have major gaps beyond drops. We can accept that it will take time to find a primary target, but how can anyone dispute that we need a consistent producer? Right now we have two guys taking 40-45 snaps with 2-3 targets per game. We seem very uncomfortable with even the intermediate part of the passing game.

It’s not a high bar but we haven’t found jujus backfill yet. And that’s where it feels most of the pieces fall more into place. A lot of us feel that rashee can at least meet the juju standard early on. But we haven’t yet. We will likely be fine in the meantime if we clean things up and we play defense at this high level. But until then our offense will be making it work vs all the pieces magically falling into place. That can’t occur with one of the central pieces missing.

O.city · 09-18-2023, 02:13 PM

So you essentially want a primary target taking up all the targets, which you said you didn't want, but you're saying is what they need.

DJ's left nut · 09-18-2023, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They also may not want to pay him the 35 or 36 million per year he will want.

But to what purpose?

If you want a QB on a rookie deal, what else WOULD you want to spend your cap space on? That roster doesn't have another player worth throwing big money at, especially if/when you move on from Cousins.

staylor26 · 09-18-2023, 02:15 PM

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They should maybe consider shopping Cousins at this point. Because in 2 weeks, anyone who's going to be QB needy is likely to be 1-3 and dead in the water.

But right now you have, I dunno, a 1-1 Jets team that still has life in it if they can get a QB they'll rally behind and not that ****ing douchebag they tossed out there Sunday. Those guys just don't play for him.

I don't think they'd get much for him, but they'd clear some cap space that could roll over until Jefferson's deal next season. They'd maybe get a 2nd day pick and they'd 'secure' their draft position to move for a new guy.

But with as weak as the NFC North appears to be, that's gonna be a hard ask for them.

Cousins to the Jets is actually the perfect trade.

You're 0-2, and you've proven time and time again that you need an upgrade at QB to get over the jump. It's the perfect time to talk, especially when you consider the QB class coming up.

The Jets actually have the kind of defense that could maybe get you there with a Cousins at QB.

Makes too much sense.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-18-2023, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So you essentially want a primary target taking up all the targets, which you said you didn't want, but you're saying is what they need.

Kelce is the primary, but I'm reading Zilla as saying we need a go-to in specific situations (3rd down?) that Patrick trusts and we can reply on as a chain mover.

We can shit on JJSS's total yardage, but dude was someone 15 relied on to move the chains if his BFF wasn't open.

DJ's left nut · 09-18-2023, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Cousins to the Jets is actually the perfect trade.

You're 0-2, and you've proven time and time again that you need an upgrade at QB to get over the jump. It's the perfect time to talk, especially when you consider the QB class coming up.

The Jets actually have the kind of defense they could maybe get you there with a Cousins at QB.

Makes too much sense.

Should've been done between Thursday and Sunday.

Once the Vikings went to 0-2 on the back of yet another dick-stepping contest, it was time to consider making the move. Gets Cousins in there for a couple days of seeing a gameplan go in and puts him ahead enough of the game to be able to step in and start in week 3.

And he's on an expiring deal so there's no long-term liability for the Jets. Meanwhile IF Rodgers decides to retire, they have Cousins as a possible fall-back who's gotten more familiar with the organization and might be excited to stick around.

Yeah, the deal should be done. But as you said - it makes too much sense to happen.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-18-2023, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Kelce is the primary, but I'm reading Zilla as saying we need a go-to in specific situations (3rd down?) that Patrick trusts and we can reply on as a chain mover.

We can shit on JJSS's total yardage, but dude was someone 15 relied on to move the chains if his BFF wasn't open.

Correct. We’re talking more safety valve than a guy you force targets to. And judging by kelce getting popped mid air by 3 guys we can’t put that all on him.

Juju had games with 4-5 targets. We also had half of the games with 8-11 targets. Do we see any of our WRs as that 8-10 target guy when needed? I don’t see it until we get rice going.

Megatron96 · 09-18-2023, 02:21 PM

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{insert 'it could be a boat!' gif here}

What could POSSIBLY help a young QB more than Justin Jefferson?

And they can get a trade up made without giving up Justin Jefferson.

No shit, you keep JJ, no matter what.

Somehow they have to ditch Cousins and go get someone a little better. Someone that gets the Xs and Os as well as Kirk, but is more willing to pull the trigger when needed. Do that, keep improving the defense, and they become a real threat in the NFC.

DJ's left nut · 09-18-2023, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

No shit, you keep JJ, no matter what.

Somehow they have to ditch Cousins and go get someone a little better. Someone that gets the Xs and Os as well as Kirk, but is more willing to pull the trigger when needed. Do that, keep improving the defense, and they become a real threat in the NFC.

Cousins isn't bad. he's actually quite good.

The right team (and yeah, the Jets may be that team) could do some REAL damage with him.

That Vikings team won't win anything with Cousins at this point because they're too far away. They'll get some empty calorie wins but they're not a real threat to win anything meaningful.

Cousins takes more blame than he should for Minnesota disappointing over the years. He's not been their problem - but he gets blame for the problems they have.

But they're going to struggle to rebuild a defense around an aging quarterback while also having to pay a really expensive WR. The best path forward for them is dealing Cousins.

MahomesMagic · 09-18-2023, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

No shit, you keep JJ, no matter what.

Somehow they have to ditch Cousins and go get someone a little better. Someone that gets the Xs and Os as well as Kirk, but is more willing to pull the trigger when needed. Do that, keep improving the defense, and they become a real threat in the NFC.

Not every team is looking to win a SB. Minnesota comes off as an organization happy to be good enough.

DJ's left nut · 09-18-2023, 02:26 PM

Is it weird that I want to see the Jets succeed? I find them to be the least objectionable of the AFC East teams at this point and their fans, as abused as they have been historically, are actually pretty damn good and loyal to a fault.

C'mon Jets - please give this a try? Your defense is awesome and you have enough weapons to do some real damage with a guy like Cousins.

I wanna see you guys take some air out of Buffalo and that douchepickle Mike McDaniel.

MahomesMagic · 09-18-2023, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Is it weird that I want to see the Jets succeed? I find them to be the least objectionable of the AFC East teams at this point and their fans, as abused as they have been historically, are actually pretty damn good and loyal to a fault.

C'mon Jets - please give this a try? Your defense is awesome and you have enough weapons to do some real damage with a guy like Cousins.

I wanna see you guys take some air out of Buffalo and that douchepickle Mike McDaniel.

What's wrong with Miami? Ok, so McDaniel is a nerd. He's a coach, who cares.

O.city · 09-18-2023, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But to what purpose?

If you want a QB on a rookie deal, what else WOULD you want to spend your cap space on? That roster doesn't have another player worth throwing big money at, especially if/when you move on from Cousins.

Because 2 reasons

The main one being I don't wanna see him waste away in Minny.

O.city · 09-18-2023, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Kelce is the primary, but I'm reading Zilla as saying we need a go-to in specific situations (3rd down?) that Patrick trusts and we can reply on as a chain mover.

We can shit on JJSS's total yardage, but dude was someone 15 relied on to move the chains if his BFF wasn't open.

I'd say Pat should throw it to the guy who gets open, or maybe have a few dinners with some of these young guys to gain some trust.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-18-2023, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'd say Pat should throw it to the guy who gets open, or maybe have a few dinners with some of these young guys to gain some trust.

Unless they are running routes in the dining room at JJ's, not sure how dinner is gonna help.

Guys. Need. Snaps.

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