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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****
They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:12 PM   #1531
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Yeah, probably. If there were a time to do it, it would be now.
Justin Watson is 27 years old and has 43 career receptions...that isn't a reliable vet that is a JAG.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:14 PM   #1532
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I completely agree, and Veach knows this - which is why it seems egregious to have gone into this season without a security blanket for 15 and someone to take the heat off 87 while the kids learned.
Sure

But we've also gotta contend with a salary cap here. I don't think throwing 15 million at OBJ or however much DHop got was feasible, much as I'd have liked it.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:15 PM   #1533
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The Justin Watson hate here always gets me. Dude always seems to be open and mostly makes catches when asked to.
I don't hate J-Wat - I hate that our offseason decision making has him as our defacto WR1.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:15 PM   #1534
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Justin Watson is 27 years old and has 43 career receptions...that isn't a reliable vet that is a JAG.
Ok.

Reliable vets like Jacobi Meyers get what he got.

That what we shoulda done?
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:16 PM   #1535
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I don't hate J-Wat - I hate that our offseason decision making has him as our defacto WR1.
Toney going down did.

Could argue that was always gonna happen, but again, we have monetary things to contend with and when WR's are getting what they're getting, they've gotta get creative.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:18 PM   #1536
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Toney going down did.

Could argue that was always gonna happen, but again, we have monetary things to contend with and when WR's are getting what they're getting, they've gotta get creative.
Toney was never going to be capable of taking #1 snaps....

Also if you go look at Watsons incentives they had to tell him something about playing time before he signed that, a player wouldn't have signed that deal if he thought he was gonna be WR 5 or 6.

If you buy into that then that means Watson knew he was going to get starter playing time. Which means this was the plan...
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They do?

MVS entire career is that he is consistently inconsistent while playing with 2 HOF QBs.

And Justin Watson is literally a WR 6.

That isn't what I'd call "reliable vets"
Their trump card was Toney, who paid off for them when they needed him last year. He was good aside from 1 play yesterday.

They want Skyy to be that new vet and he actually showed it fairly well yesterday in Jacksonville. The book isn't closed yet.

I know you wanted us to trade up for Addison, but nobody wanted to trade up with us. That's pretty well known.
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Toney was never going to be capable of taking #1 snaps....

Also if you go look at Watsons incentives they had to tell him something about playing time before he signed that, a player wouldn't have signed that deal if he thought he was gonna be WR 5 or 6.

If you buy into that then that means Watson knew he was going to get starter playing time. Which means this was the plan...
It was a 1.8 million dollar deal.
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Their trump card was Toney, who paid off for them when they needed him last year. He was good aside from 1 play yesterday.

They want Skyy to be that new vet and he actually showed it fairly well yesterday in Jacksonville. The book isn't closed yet.

I know you wanted us to trade up for Addison, but nobody wanted to trade up with us. That's pretty well known.
But Toney is never going to be reliable, his body won't allow it.
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It was a 1.8 million dollar deal.
You wouldn't sign an deal with an incentive that basically doubled your base pay based on snaps unless you had a good idea you'd get those snaps..unless your agent is a total moron.
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Toney going down did.

Could argue that was always gonna happen, but again, we have monetary things to contend with and when WR's are getting what they're getting, they've gotta get creative.
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Growing your own is fine - but the entire WR room at once while a SB window is open?

Right now you're looking at Toney - assuming he can stay healthy - and a WHOLE LOT of question marks.

Or, if you want to be a pessimist, you can assume Toney won't be able to stay healthy (he hasn't once in his career) and you have NOTHING but question marks.

They need some sort of a presence besides Kelce - MVS ain't it.
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Their trump card was Toney, who paid off for them when they needed him last year. He was good aside from 1 play yesterday.

They want Skyy to be that new vet and he actually showed it fairly well yesterday in Jacksonville. The book isn't closed yet.

I know you wanted us to trade up for Addison, but nobody wanted to trade up with us. That's pretty well known.
77% of his yardage came on a busted coverage. Let's not get carried away, you'd expect anyone on a NFL roster to "make that play"
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But Toney is never going to be reliable, his body won't allow it.
And Addison will never be a #1 WR. He's doing well bc every defense is doubling Jefferson.
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We've hit a point where you almost wonder if it would be worth it to kick the tires on Jarvis Landry or Julio Jones.
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Old 09-18-2023, 12:29 PM   #1545
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We've hit a point where you almost wonder if it would be worth it to kick the tires on Jarvis Landry or Julio Jones.
Nah, not that dire, you just have zero patience and are a known drama Queen about this stuff.
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